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Shabbat Shalom - Sabbath Of Peace ; Joseph dreamed two dreams ; 1 st the sheaves ( wave offering - Unleavened Bread ( Manna ) 1st fruits to Jesus Christ ) 2 nd ; Gen. C. 37 vs. 9 : Behold , the Sun , and the moon and the * 11 Stars * ( Joseph*s Brothers ) made obedience ( Bowing down ) to Joseph ... !!! Vs. 10 - 11 ; Jacob ( Israel ) rebuked Joseph him , but his * 11 * brothers envied him , Israel observed the saying ... The God Of Abraham , Issac , Israel was Setting up The Church Of God ... !!! Rev. C. 12 All but vs. 1 : KJV And there appeared a great wonder in Heaven ; A WOMAN ( Church Of God , Jerusalem our Mother - Gal. C. 4 vs. 26 ) Clothed with the Sun ( New Test. Covenant , clothed with Christ Jesus - Passover Feast - Lamb of God Atonement for our sins ) , and the Moon ( Old Test. Covenant ) under her feet , and upon her head a Crown Of 12 Stars ( Joseph and his *11* Brothers - 12 Tribes of Israel ) ... Glory Praise Thanks Blessings to God our Father through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior ... Bless everyone ... Amen Shalom ( Peace )

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Shalom to all , Gen. 40 : 8 Joseph told Paraoh*s Officers that the Interpretations of Dreams belongs to God !!! To tell him the Dream !!! Joseph interpretes his dream !!! I am posting this to see how Joseph and his 11 brothers are a Prophecy of God setting up his Church !!! Praise the Lord amen shalom !!!

I see no correlation between Gen. 37 and Rev. 12. When we speak of types we should find the antitype plainly described in Scripture. Joseph's first dreams were for his future and for the children of Israel. When it comes to dreams, parables and other metaphors we need to be careful that we do not "make them walk on all fours"; in other words every detail of a dream or parable has no other purpose then to help the story along.

I don't see the Church in play in this dream nor in Rev 12 -- both focus on Israel -- the fact you link correctly Gen with Rev should tell you that

i'd disagree -- the NET note from Rev. 12:1 alludes to this linkage as commonly understood -- doesn't make it correct, of course

Brothers GaryM and Paco , shalom to all , Joseph was Rejected of His Brethren ( Just Like Jesus Christ !!! ) !!! Joseph was in Paraoh*s Prison for * 12 years *( Book of Enoch ; Joseph ruled Egypt , 2 nd in Command under Paroah At Age ** 30 ** ; Ruled for * 40 years * / Like King David Ruled Israel and Judah at ** 30 Years Old * 2 Samuel 5 : 4 - 5 * / Like Jesus Christ at ** 30 Years Old Luke 3 : 23 ) ; the bible states of Jesus*s Birth and up to 2 years Old when he left with Mary and Joseph to Egypt to escape King Herod*s attemp to kill Jesus by killing boys 2 years old Matthew 1 !!! Then the Bible states of Jesus at the Temple of Jerusalem at * 12 years Old * Luke 2 : 42 to Celebrate the Passover Feast ... !!! See the Connection to Joseph And God*s Church ??? Thanks Praise Glory Honour Blessings to God , bless everyone , you must come to Jesus and the Father As A Child to Understand our Father*s Kingdom from Mount Zion amen shalom

sorry but no -- you've drawn some parallels where Joseph is a type of Christ but then you jump to the quoted line above

Rev 12 deals with Israel, not the Church

Genesis deals with Israel, not the Church

Jacob's new name was not "Church", ok?


btw -- your style of posting is not always easy for me to follow -- you may want to be a bit clearer in your presentation

Correction ; Book of Enoch / Book of Jasher = Joshua 10 : 13 ; 2 Samuel 1 : 16 - 18 ... Why Isn*t the BOOK OF JASHER in the Bible ????? Lost Book ???? Canon ??? amen shalom !!!

Book of Jasher is the Book of the Upright ; Book of Yashar !!! amen !!!

The note from the NET Bible for 2 Samuel 1:18 says:
The Book of Yashar is a noncanonical writing no longer in existence. It is referred to here and in Josh 10:12-13 and 1 Kngs 8:12-13. It apparently was “a collection of ancient national poetry”.

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Tip: Compare the bevahiors of these two ways of referencing a verse

Joshua 10 : 13

Joshua 10:13


If you hover your cursor over the first, the pop up shows all of chapter 10 of Joshua in the NET.
If you hover your cursor over the second, the pop up shows only verse 13.

The difference? The spaces you put in before and after the colon.

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Brother Avid Reader : Shalom to all , There are Two Differant Books of Yashar ; book of upright !!! One was written by a Author named Jasher ; Why you say it was a book of Poetry !!! Please look at the Internet ...www sacred-texts dot com book of Jasher - Yashar - book of the Upright !!! C. 49 vs. 38 / C. 58 vs. 11 ... !!! Glory to God through Christ , bless everyone amen shalom !!!

Messenger - I posted what the NETBible notes say for the verses quoted, nothing else. Those notes are always worth checking for obscure references, translation issues etc.

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Avid Reader : Shalom , O K !!! Thank God for your help brother !!! Bless you and your loved ones !!! amen shalom !!!