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Is the Health Ins mandate consistent with conservative principles?
The health ins mandate IS consistent with conservative principles 25%  25%  [ 2 ]
The health ins mandate is NOT consistent with conservative principles 63%  63%  [ 5 ]
I am not sure and need more information before deciding 13%  13%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:13 am 
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christianlibertarian wrote:
Whether or not nationalized health care is wise or just, such power should not reside in the FEDERAL government. The beauty and strength of the U.S. political system lies in its structure as a REPUBLIC.

The states are free to enact such legislation and in doing so, they act as laboratories of public policy. If they succeed, other states can replicate such policy...if they fail, states can take the good, leave the bad. Some states may choose to leave such experimentation to others. As for the people...well, they can always move to another state...being a native NY and a temporary KS resident, I RAN back to Florida where business environment and tax policy is much more friendly.

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Florida's "friendly" business environment also has made it heaven on earth for "pain clinics" that serve the prescription drug abuse industry. :blackeye:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:41 am 
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When it comes to litigation and healthcare, it should be important to distinguish between bad treatment and a bad outcome. It is possible for a doctor to give all the appropriate treatment and still have a bad outcome, because medicine is not an exact science.

It might be good for some of the financial cost of a bad outcome to be spread over all the patients who enjoyed a good outcome. However, that's a subject for insurance rather than litigation.

Tort litigation or at least malpractice litigiation should be limited to cases where the diagnosis or course of treatment was not only non standard, but also deficient.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:47 am 
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A term that seems to have been left out of this discussion is Progressvisism. Universal health insurance is a plank in the Progressive agenda. Both "Conservatives" and "Liberals", Republicans and Democrats, can be Progressives. Just because someone has an "R" by their name (or a "D" for that matter), doesn't mean they support and uphold the Constitution.

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Here's something else for us to consider:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/real-americans-redistribute-the-payroll-tax-debates-dirty-secret/2011/12/14/gIQAF5RttO_story.html?wpisrc=nl_opinions

Redistribution seems to be a 4-letter word, but we already have more of it than we may realize.

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Tort litigation or at least malpractice litigiation should be limited to cases where the diagnosis or course of treatment was not only non standard, but also deficient.[/quote]

It already is. Cases are tossed by judges if deemed frivolous. Even with proving malpractice (not an easy task), one must also prove loss.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:08 pm 
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cow451 wrote:
Florida's "friendly" business environment also has made it heaven on earth for "pain clinics" that serve the prescription drug abuse industry. :blackeye:
I was speaking in relative terms. Compared to the socialist states like New York, California, etc Florida's corporate and income taxes are far less restrictive.

You wont find me claiming Florida to be the perfect model of free markets...the point was simply to illustrate that different states can exercise and experiment with different policies and citizens can vote with their feet. This certainly could apply to government healthcare.

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