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Shalom to all , Charles Darwin wrote about " Natural Selection " , after his visit to the Galapagos Island !!! He found and Captured Hummingbirds with Long Beaks ??? He seen Reptiles - Iguanas going into the Ocean , Etc. ??? He was Baffled by what he seen with his own Eyes !!! The " Missing Link " was and is God ; Creator of everything !!! What He Didn*t Realize was this ; :sign7: Creation Is Evolving ( Not Just Evolution ? !!! ) :sign7: , on Earth as it is in the Heavens !!! Astrophysicists have realized that the Universe Is Expanding !!! God be Praised and Glorified , Bless everyone !!! amen shalom !!!


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Shalom , " the Missing Link " to Darwin was finding the Missing Link to Apes , Chimpanzes , Gorillas To Man ... Keep Looking Darwin , you will never Find It !!! Our Closest Relatives ??? The Lord Be Praised amen shalom !!!


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An excellent book that, in my opinion, put the ax to the root for hardcore evolutionists is Behe's treatment of logic and biochemistry in Darwin's Black Box. Keyed to the phrase "Irreducible Complexity." He goes into some depth, giving explanations and definitions of processes, precursors, and other technical jargon.

There are a number of really good resources, in print and on the web. Some of them oversimplify nomenclature's and processes, but are still good as introduction to the subject.

Along the same "line of thought" is a scientist (High Energy Particle Physicist that I'll abbreviate as HEP-PH) by the name of R. V. Gentry, who did some interesting research on the effect of particles and radioisotopes of Po 218, 214; astrophysics wrote of a red shift in the movement of matter away from the singularity (better known as the big bang). And I've recently come across a book, based on a volume of papers published (as with Gentry as well) by Frank J Tipler.

Though Tipler does little to strengthen a Christianity with supernatural overtones, the rest of his scholarly efforts have born fruit in the form of two books The Physics of Immortality and the Physics of Christianity. I have a copy of the Physics of Immortality. Though I would not use it as a primary source for apologetics, I am going to read the rest of it and secure a copy of the other as well. (I've always been a huge fan of quantum physics)

the resources for the other sciences are out there, it's just a matter of "shakin' that tree" and see what falls.

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Beloved Brother Mike C 1956 !!! Shalom , Excellant Post ; Quot : a Big Fan of Quantum Physics !!! Me Too !!! Astrophysicists have been studying " Black Holes " Back to the " Big Bang theory " and have found out that " Black Holes " can be traced back to One Nano Point ...Atomic Particle - Dark Energy - Dark Matter ??? !!! 1 st Kings KJV 8 : 11 - 12 : Then Spake Soloman , the LORD said that HE would Dwell In The THICK Darkness !!! Sounds Like the LORD Created Dark energy , Dark Matter for his Glory !!! Thanks be to God through Christ for your Information on the Books to Bring Darwin*s Theory to God*s Light , Bless you and your loved ones amen shalom !!!


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What are the axioms of Quantum Theory? Are they accepted without proof because they are self-evident? Are they accepted without proof because they conform to revealed truth from some extra-scientific source?

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Shalom to all , Charles Darwin wrote about " Natural Selection " , after his visit to the Galapagos Island !!! He found and Captured Hummingbirds with Long Beaks ??? He seen Reptiles - Iguanas going into the Ocean , Etc. ??? He was Baffled by what he seen with his own Eyes !!! The " Missing Link " was and is God ; Creator of everything !!! What He Didn*t Realize was this ; :sign7: Creation Is Evolving ( Not Just Evolution ? !!! ) :sign7: , on Earth as it is in the Heavens !!! Astrophysicists have realized that the Universe Is Expanding !!! God be Praised and Glorified , Bless everyone !!! amen shalom !!!


I don't really see what your point is here. Something about Darwin and evolution and the expansion of the universe. Could you possibly be a bit more clear?




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Charles Darwin and all evolutionist scientist and atheist failed to know that God made man.
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Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

The missing link of man to God is“LIFE “.
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John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.(KJV)

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Charles Darwin and all evolutionist scientist and atheist failed to know that God made man.


Apparently you're unaware of the thousands of theistic evolutionists roaming the streets and walking the halls of laboratories and academia.

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Apparently you're unaware of the thousands of theistic evolutionists roaming the streets and walking the halls of laboratories and academia.

Thanks for your concern awareness but I was not only born yesterday and need not go far to look for naturalist and theistic evolutionist because I have some former co-workers and some friends who believed on their theory.
The weakness of their arguments is that they were incompatible and excludes biblical view of creation
In God’s creation of first man Adam which they said was a result of natural evolution from apes to man.
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Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.(KJV)

They never accept that God created man in according to His image and likeness; which is disapproved by
natural events and history when there were no even a single man ever been existed outside natural process of God’s plan for sexual relationship of man and woman.
The missing links I’m saying is the breath of life or the inherent spirit we received from God, Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Which was mentioned in Paul passage in Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

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Shalom to all , Lurker : Peace to you and your loved ones ... !!! I will explain it a Little better ... !!! The " Missing Link " From Man to Ape has Never been Found !!! As an Athiest and in total respect for your beliefs ... !!! There is an Old saying in Human Beings here on Earth , regardless of being raised in a Belief in God or Not , regardless of where you were born , religon , race , or the Color of your skin ... ? !!! Three Questions we as Humans Ask ourselves during a period of our lives !!! 1 ; Who am I ? 2 ; What is my Purpose on Earth ? 3 ; Where do I go to when i Die ??? Unless you have the Answers to the 3 Questions , then my brother Lurker , you as I and others too was at a point of Time was searching , but not finding , my True Identity ( * A Lost Child of God !! * )!!! I will pray for you and your loved ones , Bless everyone that posted , God is Love to Infinity amen shalom !!!


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!!! Three Questions we as Humans Ask ourselves during a period of our lives !!! 1 ; Who am I ? 2 ; What is my Purpose on Earth ? 3 ; Where do I go to when i Die ??? Unless you have the Answers to the 3 Questions

Brother messengeroflight,
May you please share some answers of your questionaire?

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Brother Verbatim ; Shalom , Answers to 3 Questions 1 ; Who am i ? I am a child of God created by God through my Mother and Dad inside my Mother*s Womb back to Adam and Eve Gen. 2 ... a Sinner born from the sin of Adam with free will from God to Decide my own Fate ... the Wages of Sin Is Death ... !!! Destined for Death I Cryed out to Our Maker God my Choice and yours too ??? !!! 2 ; What is my Purpose ??? Ecclesiastes 12 : 13 - 14 KJV : vs. 13 : Let us hear the conconclusion of the Whole Matter : FEAR GOD , and Keep his Commandments : For this the Whole Duty of Man !!! Vs. 14 : For God shall bring every secret thing , whether it be good , or whether it be evil !!! 3 ; Where Do i Go to when I DIE ??? Eccles. 12 : 7 Then Shall the Dust ( Dust of Earth to Form Adam to Us !!! ) Return to the Earth as it was : And The Spirit ( Breath of Life Gen. 2 : 7 !!! ) shall Return Back to God *** WHO GAVE IT *** !!! God Is Love *1 John 4 : 1 - 8 So OUR LOVED ONES Upon Death RETURN Back to God !!! In Truth and LOVE !!! Glory to God through Christ amen shalom !!! :roll:


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OOpps Ecclesiates 12 : 14 KJV : For God shall bring every Work into Judgement , with every secret thing , whether it be Good , or whether it be Evil !!!


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Charles Darwin and all evolutionist scientist and atheist failed to know that God made man.


I agree with this.
But if you are suggesting that there is an alternative application of the scientific method which demonstrates the existence of God, I doubt it.

We can gain great insight into the creator by examining creation. But we can't come to faith by observation and reason.

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Continued on Death ; People in General Don*t Understand that we as Humans Live in " Parallel Universes " ... two Natures within our Bodies every second of our lives ; Spirit and Flesh working together but at War for Control ( God*s Will or Our Will ) ??? !!! 1st the Spirit from God the Breath of life which is Celestial from God*s Throne ... !!! 2 nd the Physical - Terrestrial ( Earth - Matter ) what our bodies were made from back to Adam and Eve !!! Please read 1 st Cor. 15 All this explains it Better , peace and love from up above , bless everyone amen shalom :bigsmurf:


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