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I do not read the verse Mat 12:50 that we are all 'mother, sister, brother' as he was addressing the crowd. I will take the role of brother and leave the other genders for the rest of the crowd.[/quote]

Leaving out "mother and sister" shall desolate us from the teaching of Christ.Luke 10:39-42 Marta had a sister named Mary,
which also sat at Jesus feet, and heard his word. Marta was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord dost do not care that my sister hath left her to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. And Jesus answered unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
But one thing is needful: Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away.( hearing his word)

Like 11:28 Blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Luke 8:21 My mother and my brethren are these which hear he word of God, and do it.

John 19:26-27 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, woman behold the son! Then he saw the disciple, Behold thy mother!

Mark 15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

Rev 2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Sad to say that we Christians have Father and Lord Jesus but we are strange to our Mother as Isaiah wrote Isaiah 50:1
Thus saith the Lord, where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it
to whom I have sold you? Behold for your iniquities have you sold yourselves, and for your transgression is your mother put away.

All scripture are NKJV unless otherwise is indicated.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

I have no idea what you are trying to say there?

Luke 8:21 is Lukes version of the same event and the key word is Them as he wasn't speaking to an individual but the crowd

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The difference in Matthew's use of the story is interesting. The NetBible leaves out the 'he' as being unnecessary, but it would read as “Here are my mother and my brothers! 12:50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven he is my brother and sister and mother.” The addition of sister is interesting as the story only talks of Jesus' mother and brothers coming to see him. If it is to be taken by sex, then how do women decide whether they are mother or sister?

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John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

What you underline is not important because the Holy Scripture is written for all men to read and understand to earn redemption through repentance and to have acquaintance to earn salvation in his name.

I hereby request to read again my earlier post and try to hear the voice of Jesus Christ because he was the one sealed by God.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

John it would seem you are using the ASV

Using the MKJV or the Amplified does not paint the same picture

http://dev.bible.org/interlinear/?book=40&chapter=12&verse=50&version=net&dir=reverse

he/she/it 'the same' himself/herself/itself/themselves

well if it was me I would go by age; I enjoy my masculinity and see no need to blend into a feminine side of life, though I work in a majority feminine workforce etc and have no problems with femininity if a guy feels he must then that is his choice (apart from jumping the fence of course).

verbatim - I am not sure why I do not get it, I just don't, maybe its too late at night will try another read tomorrow.

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Favourite verse John 7:37-39

It was from NetBible.

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Hello Wanelad,
First I would like to apologize to you and all others who has been offended by my last post when I wrote, "I hereby request
that you read again my last post" I would like to clarify that I don't mean to desconcend anybody but to share and encourage
everybody to deepen their study to the words of God.

Luke 8:18 Take heed therefore how ye hear, for whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and whoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

Luke 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God and do it. Hope this help.

God Bless.

All scripture are NKJV unless otherwise is indicated.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

verbatim thanks for the apology but did not take offence and thus was not necessary, I am just struggling to understand your point of view. Eg how have you related 'Luke 10:39-42' and Luke 8:18 for that matter, to the discussion? I need an explanation of your interpretation rather than just the verse.

Yes in Luke 8:21 whether a person be a mother, brother, sister uncle or aunt for that matter I guess needs to be a doer of the Word but how does that relate to we are to be a mother and brother at the same time. What Jesus was trying to get across was his followers are his family in a Spiritual sense and the physical was not more important.

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Favourite verse John 7:37-39

Hello Wane,
Sorry for delay reply, my PC break down and I need several times fixing it.

Back to topic..POV My suggestion is to read the bible with different approach, I mean that many things here if not all are hyperbolic or written not intended to explain the true meaning of the words.

e.g. John 1:1 the Word[u]is synonymous to name as in Revelation 19:12-13 [u]a name written, no man knew,but he himself, and his name is called The Word of God which pertain to Jesus new name Revelation 2:27 & 3:12

About the verse in Luke 10:39 and Luke 8:18 Mary had chose to sat right down near Jesus and hear the voice or word his
voice unlike Martha who chose to served as a maid to the disciples which is parallel to be righteous by work wherein a man
can not be justify but by faith.

In Luke 8:18 we are being remind on how we study or listen to teaching of Christ, for we shall be given according to our faith. A man may say that I have faith to Jesus but he said he scripture that he gave the Father's word to his believer and
nobody can tell that they received the words of the Father John 17:8 & John 17:28 wherein the word again is synonymous
to the name of the God the Father.

So, in Luke 8:20-21 And it was told him by a certain which said, Thy mother and the brethren stand without, desiring to see thee. And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.

Even the God the Father affirm in Mather 17:5 [/u]This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased, hear ye him.[/u]
And the Holy Ghost say in Hebrews 3:7-8 Today if you hear his voice don't harden your heart.

Hope this help.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

Verbatim

Firstly, it helps to read the story in the other gospels .... and to compare it with John 2:1-5. It is clear from these accounts that Jesus' own family did not understand what He was doing, and for whatever reason they were trying to make Jesus either stop or modify what He was doing. ... this actually became another temptation because Jesus' mission was why He had come, and nothing must be allowed to interfere with it - not even His family obligations.

Then secondly .... it is blessing for us, because Jesus speaks of a reality that is brought about by His life, death and resurrection .... those who believe in Him become sons and daughters of God - and so Jesus' brothers and sisters ....(Romans 1-8)

In other words, those of us who believe in Jesus are His family, even more than His actual biological family from Nazareth.

Blessed be God

Dinah

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Hello Dinah,
I agree with your share about John 2 and if you read further in verse John 2:9-10 we can read there the commentary of the ruler of the feast and the governor of he feast called the bridegroom and tell him that every man at the beginning do set forth good wine, and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse; but thou hast kept the good wine, until now.

This good wine represent the last but the best divine doctrine of Jesus which is his blood to be use as a sacrificial atonement for the sin of the world, he used wine as a figurative offering in the last supper.

Second is in Romans 1:3 wherein Jesus Christ is said to be the "seed of David" on which it mean to be son of David.
In Revelation 5:5 Jesus Christ is defined as "Root of David" thus mean that David is only a descendant of Jesus Christ.

Mathew 22:41-45 While the Pharisees gathered, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think ye of Christ? Whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. v.43) He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
v.44) The Lord saith unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy foostool.
v.45) If David call him Lord, how is he is son?

All scripture are NKJV unless otherwise is indicated.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

How do this relate to an intimate relationship



How do "Intimacy" prevent discouragement?

HOW DID PAUL RISE ABOVE DISCOURAGEMENT AND NEVER LOSE HEART?
How do intimacy implie discipleship?

The twelve intimates of Jesus were called disciples and disciples are puplies or learners.
Intimacyis deepened by discipline Hebrews 12:5-11

verbatim wrote:
I agree but your OP about "Intimacy" is a broad and deep topic which is needed to be study spiritually as Jesus say to his disciples in Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sister, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciples.

Jesus prayed to our Father in John 17:17-26 that we should have oneness or intimacy to Lord Jesus Christ and to God Father through everlasting LOVE.

All scripture are NKJV unless otherwise is indicated.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7