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that is the problem that you dont understand God's Wrath on humankind that is coming , japan disaster that is happend now is just flowers compared to what is coming ,read revelation !!! and the time is coming i believe when people will seek God's Word but wont find it soon, you know how hard is to find good Preacher who is filled with the Power and Authority of Word of God!

Love God and Love your neighbour is fundamentals of Christian Faith!!! i believe Torah and Prophets explain basically how to Love God and Neighbour and Jesus Christ our Lord explained it further as well!

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

hahaha , My Lord is Jesus Christ and he is jewish and his Faith is jewish! He is the Lion from the tribe of Judah, the Son of our Father!
so christianity is jewish , catholic bcs i believe in the universal church of Christ as Bride!!! baptist bcs i go to baptist church and love baptist preachers!

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

Thanks waneland, but I've been hearing the same explanation from various Christians all my life. It doesn't work for me.

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Some say Jesus was not a pacifist...

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5:14

Well, yes. That's why God gave me a mind of my own. The Book of Proverbs tells us to seek wisdom. Blindly placing faith in a story is not "wisdom" to me.


He sure doesn't act the same. And where has he been for 2,000 years?

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Some say Jesus was not a pacifist...

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5:14

Fine. Explain that to the 75% of youth who are leaving the church after high school.


Yes, I agree with you. But what does that have to do with all the atrocities attributed to God in the OT?

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Some say Jesus was not a pacifist...

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5:14

Bluesman according to your signature it is not that you do not believe in God rather you are questioning the Bible to be Gods Word or having trouble understanding Gods actions in the past would this be correct?

We cannot convince you one way or the other only the Holy Spirit can do that, as for the 2,000 yrs bit 1 day can be like a 1,000 years for God 2Pet 3:8, the end seems to be coming pretty close though as Alex has said.



But he also said 1Co 1:19-21 As the Scriptures say, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise. I will confuse the understanding of the intelligent." So what does this say about the philosopher, the law expert, or anyone in this world who is skilled in making clever arguments? God has made the wisdom of the world look foolish. This is what God in his wisdom decided: Since the world did not find him through its own wisdom, he used the message that sounds foolish to save those who believe it.

So when we seek to understand God we need to seek him in the Spirit and believe in faith even though for this present time we may not understand all.

At this time all we can do is pray for the conviction of the Holy Spirit as our arguments will not convince your logic as others could not convince me of mine in the past, enlightenment comes from God himself and I believe this comes when we seek or exercise or faith

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That would be correct.

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Some say Jesus was not a pacifist...

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5:14

as i understand because youth wasnt taught Bible !!! especially the Gospel (which is our Torah of Jesus Christ , which is perfect law) , bcs they grew up in easy believism.

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

on some people judgement will come early as in the time of Noah , God destroyed whole world and spared 8 people , and Sodom and Gomorah , and abt Canaan their sin grew so much that God had to destroy them!!! bcs God warned and said their sin grew enough
As Jesus Christ said if you dont repent same thing will happen to you , you will be destroyed!!! Luke 13:3 (read the context)

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

bluesman,
Yes, I think renouncing the OT does imply one has turned your back on Jesus, as Jesus is present throughout the OT. He is eternal, the same God, as part of the Trinity, that actively worked throughout the OT.

As for your concerns of genocide, I suggest you give Paul Copan's book "Is God a Moral Monster" a read: http://www.amazon.com/God-Moral-Monster-Making-Testament/dp/0801072751

I've not read the book personally, but I've read a couple of online articles where he discusses the thrust of the book, including the specific issue of accusations of genocide, and heard him interviewed on Stand To Reason. He makes a very good case that we typically misunderstand the language and intent of Ancient Near Eastern writing.

How Could God Command Killing the Canaanites?
http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/201004/201004_138_Canannites.cfm

Is Yahweh a Moral Monster? The New Atheists and Old Testament Ethics
http://www.epsociety.org/library/articles.asp?pid=45

Sorry for the above off topic post...as for the original Post...I think it has a lot to do with a lack of theological teaching, and a severe lack of interaction with objections to belief. I think a lack of Apologetics plays a large part of it. Kids need to be taught how to answer questions that they are confronted with and how to reason through what they believe.

Where? I must have missed it.

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Some say Jesus was not a pacifist...

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5:14

Thank you for the link. Page one reinforces my suspicions. (It's probably the only time I'll ever agree with Christopher Hitchens.)

It seems that the more I read, the less I believe. These days I find myself edging closer to the "New Atheism" than to Christianity.

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Some say Jesus was not a pacifist...

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5:14

The whole old Testament has references of Jesus Isaiah 53 is a good example Gen 3:15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - as a Prophecy of Jesus are just two

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