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 Post subject: Re: Juggalos/ICP
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:41 pm 
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hmmmm I cant find the thing that talked 666 in tha pic but the little submerine pic has it in it very easy to see


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 Post subject: Re: Juggalos/ICP
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If you don't stop the out-of-date, southern, urban legend rumors, I'm going to sic
Sir Paul McCartney on you! We are not going to respond to every goofy theory you pass on to prove The Beatles are Satan's minions. Seriously, there is a whole world for you to explore outside of Psycho Records. They too have fan clubs.

Look, buy a used synth, laptop, and mike. Get a sequencer program like Cakewalk, and you can make your own rap to post and maybe send your own message to hundreds on the internet. Talent has little to do with this genre.
Good luck.

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 Post subject: Re: Juggalos/ICP
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:56 pm 
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Serendipity wrote:
If you don't stop the out-of-date, southern, urban legend rumors, I'm going to sic
Sir Paul McCartney on you! We are not going to respond to every goofy theory you pass on to prove The Beatles are Satan's minions. Seriously, there is a whole world for you to explore outside of Psycho Records. They too have fan clubs.

Look, buy a used synth, laptop, and mike. Get a sequencer program like Cakewalk, and you can make your own rap to post and maybe send your own message to hundreds on the internet. Talent has little to do with this genre.
Good luck.

Later


HAHAHA! :lol: wow lol ok and it wud be nice to get back on track

lol i am curious tho about how what i said about the Beatles has to do with psycho records


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 Post subject: Re: Juggalos/ICP
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:40 pm 
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I grew up in the 60's and I liked the Beatles but I was not on board with some of John Lennon's songs or his views either just as I am not on board with the group you like, The news that was done buy the Juggalos cast I listen to the other day was full of vulgarity..How is this promoting Gods word.?

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ICP is NOT a Christian group. They never have been. Just because a group mentions the name of Jesus Christ or God does not mean that is who they worship. Groups that have profanity ANYWHERE on their homepage or in their lyrics are not honoring God in any way. Honestly my friend I have extensive background in all things musical both secular and Christian and ICP is NOT Christian.

If you are looking for a group that can speak to the youth today try Demo Hunter or Skillet.

Demon Hunter has this on their website(look under the faw)
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A: Yes, absolutely! We are all Bible believing followers of Jesus Christ.


Trust me my friend there are a LOT of good christian bands out there that rock it like David did! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Juggalos/ICP
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:15 pm 
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ICP is NOT a Christian group. They never have been. Just because a group mentions the name of Jesus Christ or God does not mean that is who they worship. Groups that have profanity ANYWHERE on their homepage or in their lyrics are not honoring God in any way. Honestly my friend I have extensive background in all things musical both secular and Christian and ICP is NOT Christian.

If you are looking for a group that can speak to the youth today try Demo Hunter or Skillet.

Demon Hunter has this on their website(look under the faw)
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IS DEMON HUNTER A CHRISTIAN BAND?
A: Yes, absolutely! We are all Bible believing followers of Jesus Christ.


Trust me my friend there are a LOT of good christian bands out there that rock it like David did! :)


lol I love Skillet and I realy like Demon Hunter but I just dont get Demon Hunter, I may just not be seeing it but I cant realy find anything that Christian, I dont see anything but it just seems ike music. aslo did you read what I said about profanity? lol I used the word cussing though


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 Post subject: Re: Juggalos/ICP
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And to everyone I have said it before. If they sound Christian Directly through there lyrics then all the christian kids would be the ones listening and not the hard hearted people that they are trying to reach. And I do know some christian groups do reach out to non christian and turn them to god but these are usualy a different type of people. KJ-52 has turned some realy depressed and suicidle people to God but that is a different type of person


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Jenn,
I just got a real 'puter and high speed INet.
I'll pass on Demon H. and Skillet, but I just listened to you for the first time. Very Nice! Don't know why you call it call it Country. Reminded me of a young Kate Bush. :-)

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walterayburn wrote:
walterayburn wrote:
I may just not be seeing it but I cant realy find anything that Christian

lol I ment about Demon Hunter


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 Post subject: Re: Juggalos/ICP
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waltrayburn, the most important question for anyone is the one you have already given an answer for: you state that you are a Christian. Keep your faith in Jesus alive and well by reading your bible regularly, praying, meeting with other Christians. All of that will help you keep your relationship with Jesus clearly before you.

After that, is it OK for a Christian to be a fan of ICP? If you mean, "like the music" there may be little problem - all of our tastes are different. But it seems you mean more than that.

What about the lyrics? You have pointed out lyrics you feel could be used in the cause of Christ, but it seems most here are pointing out that the lyrics of the songs, the actions of some fans and so on, make them want you to be very cautious. Do not get your ideas about Jesus and gospel confused with the ideas of a musical group. We are encouraged to fill our minds with good things, and not to allow damaging thoughts and ideas any brain space, for example, see
Philippians 4:8 8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is worthy of respect, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if something is excellent or praiseworthy, think about these things. Context (NET)
It is never OK for a Christian to place our loyalty to anyone or anything above that we owe to Jesus. Remember too, that we are not to do or say anything that puts a bad name onto Jesus.

Once you have considered such advice, then you must answer the question for yourself; Can you be a Juggalo and still claim allegiance to Jesus with a clear conscience? The answer is between you and the Lord.

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waltrayburn, the most important question for anyone is the one you have already given an answer for: you state that you are a Christian. Keep your faith in Jesus alive and well by reading your bible regularly, praying, meeting with other Christians. All of that will help you keep your relationship with Jesus clearly before you.

After that, is it OK for a Christian to be a fan of ICP? If you mean, "like the music" there may be little problem - all of our tastes are different. But it seems you mean more than that.

What about the lyrics? You have pointed out lyrics you feel could be used in the cause of Christ, but it seems most here are pointing out that the lyrics of the songs, the actions of some fans and so on, make them want you to be very cautious. Do not get your ideas about Jesus and gospel confused with the ideas of a musical group. We are encouraged to fill our minds with good things, and not to allow damaging thoughts and ideas any brain space, for example, see <blockquote><div><cite><font size="2">Philippians 4:8</font></cite> <b>8</b> Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is worthy of respect, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if something is excellent or praiseworthy, think about these things. <a href="http://net.bible.org/?Philippians 4:8" target="_blank"><b>Context (NET)</b></a></blockquote> It is never OK for a Christian to place our loyalty to anyone or anything above that we owe to Jesus. Remember too, that we are not to do or say anything that puts a bad name onto Jesus.

Once you have considered such advice, then you must answer the question for yourself; Can you be a Juggalo and still claim allegiance to Jesus with a clear conscience? The answer is between you and the Lord.


I had actually stopped being a Juggalo for a while and just tried working on problems I had in my life by praying and asking God for help to be how he wants me to be, to live the way he wants me to live, and to get rid of things in my life he didnt want there. I not perfect but im better and one of the things he helped me with was to put a desire for the bible in me, I have started reding my bible everyday. I had still never completely decided that ICP was wrong and not for God by that I mean, I had been praying for God to show me and hadnt but for a while in my life I do beleive I needed to put it aside for a while, now I am being more cautious of this music and looking at it with a better understanding of what God thinks about it. But NO MATTER where I stand on this subject now I am prepared to drop it if the Holy Sipirt convicts me of it. But still I feel a need to talk to the Juggalos that havent turnd to God and show them what he has done in my life, and he has done a lot, PRAISE GOD! and what he can do in theirs. On a Juggalo site that I have been on a lot lately I have started a Christian Juggalo group and trying to put a lot of stuff on the sight about God. Aslo I have set up discustions in atemps to talk to people one on one about him.


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 Post subject: Re: Juggalos/ICP
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and to add to what I just said. Im trying to reach them as a Juggalo, Im showing them what ICP realy says about it. What I have seen on different places around the internet. When I talk about God or the Bible they get rude, hateful, and mean, wich I ubderstand is somthing we will face and that shouldnt stop us but what I have seen in the Juggalos. Even the ones who dont beleive at all are very respectful of my beleifes (cause im a Juggalo), They listen to me more (cause im a Juggalo). Now not all and so far I cant think of any that ik for a fact has RLY listened to what I had to say and took it in but i have been trying to plant seeds and who knows maybe some people already are getting it.


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...now I am being more cautious of this music and looking at it with a better understanding of what God thinks about it. ...But still I feel a need to talk to the Juggalos that havent turnd to God and show them what he has done in my life, and he has done a lot, PRAISE GOD! and what he can do in theirs.
That sounds like God, to me! Go for it, Walter!
 
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walterayburn, seems to me you could have started a thread asking us all to pray for you as you seek to win people for Christ! I am sure people here are praying for you, and will continue to do so.

Praise God that he has been drawing you closer to himself through prayer and bible study, and your openness to the leading of the Holy Spirit. If the Juggalos accept you because you have been one of them and understand them, praise God indeed, and continue to trust and rely on Him alone.

May the Lord protect you,
and keep you safe in mind and soul.
May He give you boldness to proclaim the gospel,
and wisdom to know what to say
May you have discernment about all that will come your way,
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What is a juggalo defined as, by the way?

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