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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:34 am 
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My daughter is 17 years old. Last summer, she told me that she seriously fell in love with a boy. She gave me his email address and I started to communicate with him via emails. He came across very mature (though he is 2 months younger than my daughter) and was extremely caring and thoughtful. I felt amazed that a boy, at his age, could think and act this maturely and care so much about my daughter. I thought he was a godsend. Last month, I discovered that "he" actually is NOT a he, but a SHE!!! I was flabbergasted and on the brink of fainting. I never thought that my daughter was a lesbian. I confronted her partner whose appearance could be mistaken for a boy. I made them split and they agreed. I was a tad surprised about their obedience. And then, I found out that they only lied to me - they continued to see each other and their love simply grew even stronger. I had a long chat with them and finally, I knew I had no choice but to let them continue this same-sex relationship. I couldn't chain my daughter at home. Neither could I stop her partner from seeing my daughter. I chatted with her mother who obviously was at her wits end. My heart sank. I couldn't eat and talk to others - I was in tears at work and even on the buses with people eyeing me with curiosity. I was in a deep abyss of depression, despair and bitterness. My sister who is a faithful Christian suggested that I seek solace from God. I pray every day and read books about how to rely upon God as He must have a way to help. I've been waiting for a miracle, but it seems that none of my prayers are answered and I see no miracles. I am getting paranoid: "What if there is no God?" God is my last hope - If one day, I realize that there is no God, I will be completely shattered as there will be nothing left for me to lean on..... I know I have to be patient as God's way is different from mine. But, I cannot help myself from feeling panicky. I'm about to send my daughter to college where she will be on her own. It is important that she can exercise self control to resist temptations of all sorts. I'm afraid that the new "freedom" will make her become wilder and even be totally out of control. I don't know what more I can do to knock some sense in her mind to know that this same sex relationship never works out and she will get hurt at the end. What needs to be said has been said and what needs to be advised has been advised. Please give me some advice and encouragement. I really need help..... I'm afraid that I may have gone either insane or completely stressed out before I see a miracle happening...


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:53 am 
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Well don't fall into the trap of thinking somehow that if you just do a certain thing or whatever that your daughter is going to do what you desire.

Maybe you know a bit what it's like to be God, you go to extremes even to the point of death on a cross and people say they want to do their own thing. Even say things like you don't love them or you're just trying to manipulate them or all sorts of things.

It's very difficult to speak directly to this without knowing your daughter. Hard to tell to what extent she is attracted to women and not men. It's difficult actually to know with women because women are naturally attracted to each other. Editors of women's magazines have known for a long time how women find the face of another woman attractive, so you see page after page of women often with the face prominently displayed. If you switched it a bit and had a guy sit and read magazines that featured picture after picture of guys like women's magazines do, people would assume he was gay.

Women become aware of their attraction and they assume they are gay too, even thought they aren't.

And there is also the problem that let's be honest, there aren't many young guys that are all that great to have a relationship with. You mention it yourself when you say how amazed you were at the "boyfriend".

And young women just want so desparately to be loved and desired and so when there is someone who does, well, often it's not that big a deal to them if that's a man or a woman, used to be social stigma would stop many at some point but society has long been more tolerant of two women than two men.

So there's a lot that could be going on here, and problem is, you are probably about the last person in the world she is going to tell. If she does tell you something it's hard to know if she's saying the truth or saying something to please you or saying something to push your buttons.

I guess what I'm saying is it's hard to know if this is a relationship with one other woman or if it's more. Added concern on top of that is that sexual response is to a degree learned. So there's also a concern that what starts with one relationship turns into more.

In any case, as you know, it's pretty limited at this point in her life what you can do. The hard part is to actually accept that. And I don't mean to say well if you had just done a certain thing when she was 7 that all this would not have happened.

Making things like this so difficult is the desire to hide them. That really gives them their power over us. It's good to talk to others about this, as you say the other girl's mother is beside herself and doesn't know what to do either. This is why you see such a list of support groups. We really are limited in our ability to control others, what we have is control over our response, and so support groups and counselors focus on you and helping you handle things.

It's especially problematic with our children because it's really normal to kind of have this fantasy life built up around them. They are going to grow up, find the best guy in the whole world, have a wonderful life in a wonderful place in a wonderful house and give us plenty of wonderful grandchildren which we can have the most amazing wonderful relationships with. Problem is, our children tend to be more like us than our fantasy is. They are sinners, often selfish, they make poor choices and even when they make good ones it doesn't guarantee anything. The hardest thing is that we experience a sense of loss in many cases. It's like mentally something dies because we see our fantasy future for them flying out the window.

Anyway, that's probably too much in one post anyway so I better stop, did anything seem to fit?

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 Post subject: Re: Help....
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:19 pm 
I have read your "Cry for Help". It sounds like you have your hands full! I just wanted to assure you of just a few things. 1st of all and most importantly, remember God Still sits on the throne!!! The Bible tells us "That even when a single sparrow falls from the sky that God dosen't take notice." God is a loving God, and as our "Heavenly Father" he cares about every aspect of our lives, EVERY ASPECT!!!That includes your daughter. I would like to suggest that you memorize the Prayer of Jabez (which I will write out for you) and let this Prayer empower your prayer life, and keep praying for your daughter. Seek out those whom you trust and have like faith with and ask them to pray with you. Prayer works, and God honors and ansewers your prayers. There is a book called "The Prayer of Jabes" written by Dr. Bruce H. Wilkinson, It's a short book and easy to read. You might consider reading it for more information on the Prayer.

The Prayer of Jabez
Oh, that You would bless me indeed,
And enlarge my territory,
That your hand would be with me,
And that You would keep me from evil,
That I may not cause pain! 1 Chronicles 4:10

Just a few words about this Prayer. We often miss out on blessings because we don't ask God to Bless us. When we ask God to enlarge our territory, we are asking for God to enlarge our ministry or area of influence. Ask God to keep HIS hand on your life and to guide and direct you. Ask God to keep you from evil, which is really asking God to keep satin and his influence away from you.

God made us all and gave us a fee will to make our own decisions and choices. The best we can do as parents is to try to raise our children in the proper way, but sometimes our children make some really bad choices. The one thing you can do is Pray, and show your daughter that you love her. You may not "Love" her life style choice, but don't stop loving her. and don't stop Praying. Prayer changes everything! I hope that what I have wrote here will be an encouragement to you.

May God bless you and your family.


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I have sent you a PM, and joined you to the private Women's discussion, where you will find women struggling with similar issues ...

http://forum.bible.org/viewforum.php?f=243

but hold on to God .... He loves you and your daughter.

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 Post subject: Re: Help....
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:00 am 
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Thanks SO much, Marv, trbigdaddy and Dinah for your encouraging messages. I'm actually a new believer of God. I used to pray, but not in a serious manner. After this devastating incident, I have begun to follow God as I truly need spiritual support to keep myself sane to deal with the challenges in this disaster.

There were moments when I felt so disappointed about my daughter that I wanted to disown her as I thought she brought disgrace on the family. I felt guilty for being such a cruel mother who only loved my daughter because she was my pride and wanted to abandon her when she made a bad choice. My sister encouraged me to seek comfort in God. Maybe my faith in God was too little – I, at times, questioned the existence of God or even felt furious/impatient when I found my prayers unanswered. It’s like I was expecting a change overnight.

Your messages have empowered me. I will keep on praying and praying. My sister did give me the book “Prayer of Jabez” and I was half done with it. There are some parts which I still have to read and read again in order to understand. I viewed the video which taped the speech delivered by Joyce Meyer on handling worries and fear last nite. I am hopeful that one day, I can be as strong in mind as you all. I pray hard that God will not desert me because my faith in Him is so thin.

My daughter is someone who doesn’t fall in love with a person easily. Once she is attached with a person, she becomes clingy and totally crazily in love with that person. She simply turns a deaf ear to all reasonable advice. Her partner had a heart-breaking split with her first love (who is also a girl). That’s why she cherishes my daughter like gem. They do kiss and hug as I saw their pictures, but I don’t think they have anything intimate more than these (I hope and I pray).

As a mother, it’s just disheartening and harrowing to see my daughter falling for a very wrong person. She is aware that she is making a mistake, but her burning desire for her partner cannot be quelled.... She said to me once that she would not feel regretful for falling in love with her partner despite the fact that she knows this love is forbidden and not approved by us. At the time I heard of this, my heart pounded loudly and I felt the whole world falling apart....


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