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A solid majority of the U.S. public, 73%, believes the Second Amendment to the Constitution guarantees the rights of Americans to own guns. Twenty percent believe the amendment only guarantees the rights of state militia members to own guns

While the American public backs the view that gun ownership is a constitutional right, Americans favor having legal restrictions on it.

In the same poll, 49% favor stricter gun laws than exist now and 38% would like to see gun laws remain as they are. Just 11% advocate gun laws that are less strict.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105721/publi ... -guns.aspx

The Terrorist Watch list is so loosely run from what I've read I wouldn't want anyone's rights infringed by mere suspicion. It is an extra-judicial means of denying someone their rights without due process of the law. As citizens we must always have the right to face our accusers and defend ourselves. Claiming national security and denying you access to the evidence or rumors against you........ That's fascism and something I served to keep out of this country.

...I actually meant to post the previous post in the Florida shooting thread. In any case, I believe the current laws on the books are about right. There are some exceptions of course...like my home state whose legislatures are convinced we should bring back the OK corral to our public spaces : )

I have a gun and I carry one everyday its part of my job, I also work in a counter terrorism unit along side with US Customs and US Coast Guard and terrorists are not so much about killing people with guns that they are afflicting mass causalities ,You probably in most cases want see it coming if its terrorist related..

Strider33:

I think you are right that the vast majority supports the second amendment. But that doesn't mean that the majority is monolithic in its opinion about what the second amendment really means.

Let's take assault rifles as an example. There are people whose primary reason for supporting the second amendment has to do with sports and hunting. For those people a ban on assault rifles, or restricting them to carefully controlled rifle ranges is no big deal. They might worry about a slippery slope, but they don't worry directly about having to hunt without an assault rifle.

There are people whose primary support for the second amendment has to do with personal protection in situations where the police won't be on the scene until it's too late. This includes armed guards at a bank. It might also include George Zimmerman while he was out making his rounds. Those people don't need assault rifles either. In the context of this discussion, it's interesting to note that George Zimmerman had stepped outside the rules laid down by the neighborhood watch group he was supposedly acting with.

There are some people whose primary support of the second amendment is based in the idea that armed insurrection is the last line of defense for the people, if the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the government all conspire to deprive people of their essential liberty. Insurrection is a lot like warfare, and an assult rifle might be exactly what's needed for this purpose.

Now this last reason for having a second amendment might seem truly outrageous to most readers. Indeed, I myself don't think we are anywhere near the kind of national crisis where armed insurrection is even remotely appropriate. But you have to take into account that the folks who passed the second amendment were thinking somewhat along these lines.

It's also worth recalling that, when the election of 1800 failed to produce a president, people began stockpiling weapons outside Washington DC, preparing for the eventuality that Congress would fail to resolve the cirsis. It's also worth noting that some "extreme preppers" include heavy weapons in their preparations.

So you feel that terrorists don't necessarily have an interest in guns, as opposed to bombs, etc? I am not sure I understand your position.

There are some people whose primary support of the second amendment is based in the idea that armed insurrection is the last line of defense for the people, if the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the government all conspire to deprive people of their essential liberty. Insurrection is a lot like warfare, and an assult rifle might be exactly what's needed for this purpose.

As far as terrorists ans guns is concerned, you have to look at that guy in Norway. His home made bomb only took 8 lives. He shot something like 67 people.

If we include berserkers as well as terrorists, the kids in Columbine used home made bombs and guns. It was the guns that took the lives.