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Do we need more gun control than we have, or less?
We need more gun control - explain below 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
We need less gun control- explain below 75%  75%  [ 9 ]
We should leave well enough alone 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 12
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Regardless, my whole point in that discussion was to introduce the article talking about why the information being presented by both sides is questionable, at best.
And mine is that regardless whether one uses minimalist or maximalist numbers, the number of the kind of mass shootings cited by Assured is far lower than the number of crimes prevented by firearms. My point was that these mass shootings are often exaggerated and hyped by the media, and used as justification for stricter gun laws (in this case within weeks of the shooting congress was trying to pass several bills, including one that would have "banned" anyone from carrying a firearm within 1,000 feet of a U.S. Senator or Congressman).


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Assured I haven't read the whole thread yet but on page 2 you said that "guns are dangerous" I disagree. A gun is an inanimate object, neither safe nor dangerous - it's PEOPLE and ignorance that are dangerous - just my 2 cents ;) ok I'm gonna go back and read more of the thread :)

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Jennifer Dent wrote:
Assured I haven't read the whole thread yet but on page 2 you said that "guns are dangerous" I disagree. A gun is an inanimate object, neither safe nor dangerous - it's PEOPLE and ignorance that are dangerous - just my 2 cents ;) ok I'm gonna go back and read more of the thread :)


Would you say the same thing about a bucket of acid or a bomb?

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Would you say the same thing about a bucket of acid or a bomb?
Yes. "Acid" simply means something that is less than 7 on the pH scale. Many "bombs" are inert until a trigger is fitted (C4) or a specific circumstance is met (like Tannerite, that will not explode unless impacted by a high-velocity object). :wink:


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Edged weapons are far more dangerous because they are always 'live'.

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I didn't vote in the survey. The choice, "We need a great deal more 'constitutional thinking' and less 'Control'" was not in the survey.

IMHO such surveys say little because of the way the questions are framed.

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IMHO such surveys say little because of the way the questions are framed
indeed

crafting an impartial survey is not something you can just wing <shrug>


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Paco,

Is somebody trying to be impartial? I hadn't noticed.

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strider -- my optomistic side wants to give folks the benefit of the doubt

i also don't want to downplay the fact that creating impartial surveys is a difficult task


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