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I agree with marcus. You can use a gun to defend yourself without having to fire it. My grandpa woke up to and intruder. It was in the middle of the night and dark. He pointed his (supposed) gun at the intruder and told him to leave or he would blow his head off, and the guy left. My grandpa doesn't own a firearm; it was his finger that he was pointing at the young man. lol But it worked.

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Sure, there are still wars, but those weapons of which you speak do exist. They're just expensive and not every nation can afford them. I've already mentioned nukes which have kept large nations from waging all-out war on each other for decades. Also, more accurate targeting systems for bombs have cut collateral damage significantly. It certainly hasn't been eliminated, but gone are the days of indiscriminately bombing an entire city multiple times just to try to hit a single bridge.

-Dan.

And mine is that regardless whether one uses minimalist or maximalist numbers, the number of the kind of mass shootings cited by Assured is far lower than the number of crimes prevented by firearms. My point was that these mass shootings are often exaggerated and hyped by the media, and used as justification for stricter gun laws (in this case within weeks of the shooting congress was trying to pass several bills, including one that would have "banned" anyone from carrying a firearm within 1,000 feet of a U.S. Senator or Congressman).

Assured I haven't read the whole thread yet but on page 2 you said that "guns are dangerous" I disagree. A gun is an inanimate object, neither safe nor dangerous - it's PEOPLE and ignorance that are dangerous - just my 2 cents ok I'm gonna go back and read more of the thread

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Would you say the same thing about a bucket of acid or a bomb?

-Dan.

Yes. "Acid" simply means something that is less than 7 on the pH scale. Many "bombs" are inert until a trigger is fitted (C4) or a specific circumstance is met (like Tannerite, that will not explode unless impacted by a high-velocity object).

Edged weapons are far more dangerous because they are always 'live'.

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I didn't vote in the survey. The choice, "We need a great deal more 'constitutional thinking' and less 'Control'" was not in the survey.

IMHO such surveys say little because of the way the questions are framed.

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indeed

crafting an impartial survey is not something you can just wing <shrug>

Paco,

Is somebody trying to be impartial? I hadn't noticed.

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strider -- my optomistic side wants to give folks the benefit of the doubt

i also don't want to downplay the fact that creating impartial surveys is a difficult task