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My own perspective is that the folks at Fox News have shown a degree of pragmatism. If Gingrich and Romney were reversed in the number of delegates won, I'm pretty sure the talking heads would be leaning the other way. As it is, Romney has been the odds-on favorite for awhile now based on the delegate count.

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I agree with your last post, Gideon.

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Gideon wrote:
My own perspective is that the folks at Fox News have shown a degree of pragmatism. If Gingrich and Romney were reversed in the number of delegates won, I'm pretty sure the talking heads would be leaning the other way. As it is, Romney has been the odds-on favorite for awhile now based on the delegate count.



Yes, the outcome was never really in doubt. Newt isn't generally graceful in defeat. It is interesting he turned on Fox when the relevant facts are reported by all the outlets. It must be that he felt, as a former Fox "contributor", that he felt betrayed.

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I agree with Gideon, too. It's pragmatism.

But it also confirms Fox's rightward slant. Newt's right - CNN is probably a lot more objective about his candidacy than Fox News would be.

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But it also confirms Fox's rightward slant
this statement is w/o support -- Newt is in debt & hasn't won anything outside of his home & neighboring state -- 1 need not lean left or right to report facts

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CNN is probably a lot more objective about his candidacy than Fox News would be
unsubstatiated opinion that is based on what exactly?

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Yes, the outcome was never really in doubt
exactly

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Newt isn't generally graceful in defeat
true -- it's a character flaw but we all have them

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as a former Fox "contributor", that he felt betrayed
this is my suspicion also which, if true, illustrates the man's pettiness -- hence, he's unsuited for the office imo

Newt's campaign was as much about selling books as it was about running for office -- @ least if 1 were to examine his appearances -- arrogance & greed were intermingled with the occasional display of statesmanship & noteworthy idea -- i was often saddened that this man was unable (unwilling?) to focus his intellect/experience to further the country


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CNN is probably a lot more objective about his candidacy than Fox News would be


unsubstatiated opinion that is based on what exactly?


"Pragmatism" would be diametrically opposed to "neutrality." If you're pragmatic, that means you're involved in the process and have chosen sides. For that reason, I think Newt has a point. But that's ok - there are outlets that slant left, too. :)

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If you're pragmatic, that means you're involved in the process and have chosen sides
no one has proven Fox News is pragmatic with their approach is my pt -- some have assumed & then characterized their hunches

projecting a winner based on facts & observable outcomes does not make 1 pragmatic nor slanted -- i find it objective


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Gideon used the word "pragmatic," tsnody and (I think?) one or two other people including myself agreed with him. You may not agree, certainly.

Here's his full post again:

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My own perspective is that the folks at Fox News have shown a degree of pragmatism. If Gingrich and Romney were reversed in the number of delegates won, I'm pretty sure the talking heads would be leaning the other way. As it is, Romney has been the odds-on favorite for awhile now based on the delegate count.


I bolded for emphasis.

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Gideon used the word "pragmatic," tsnody and (I think?) one or two other people including myself agreed with him
we are not communicating...everyone in this thread knows this but it's irrelevant -- it's opinion -- we cannot infer intent w/o some evidence

facts were given & their prognostication was based on that -- anything more, w/o evidence, is speculation -- you want to proclaim conclusions that are unsubstantiated simply because "everyone knows Fox is conservative" -- sorry, but that doesn't prove your assertions

let's not waste any more time belaboring this trivial pt


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Why is it so important to make Newt Gingrich (or me) wrong in this instance?

I just don't happen to think he is wrong. I think he is right and several people have acknowledged that Fox News is openly favoring Mitt Romney.

But I will join tsnody2001 in (again) stating that Fox News isn't the only news outlet with a slant. I'm not trying to take a dig at Fox News (I thought I had made that clear). But this story is very interesting, and I thank Cow for posting it. :)

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it's not important but trivial, as i said -- nevertheless, i'll comment when i feel a view is under-represented or i have something edifying to share

i merely disagreed with the characterization by a few posters that included you -- you made bolder claims than they did, imo, so i focused on them for that reason

again, just because a few claim something doesn't make it true...so we disagree

i tend to ignore these threads cause they pale in comparison to those asking for help, discussing doctrine, understanding God's Holiness, etc -- i looked @ this 1 cause it was old news as Newt had done this a couple times in the previous yr -- you should recall this since you "love news"

plus, we all need to distinguish between FNC's, CNN's, etc's news programs & their "opinion" (i forget the generic term) shows -- i would expect Hannity, Ed, & Anderson to slant the "news" vs. simply reporting it


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