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Was the Florida Shooting Justified "Under Stand Your Ground"?
Yes 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
No 38%  38%  [ 5 ]
Undecided 54%  54%  [ 7 ]
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I am nervous and angry about Zimmerman and his friends taking this precaution, rather than leaving it to the police to document evidence. It feels manipulative to me, and breathtakingly cold-hearted. He just killed someone, and he is worried about himself?

Really?! :angryfire:

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Assured, I was thinking along the same lines, although not quite as strongly as you are. Now what I am interested in is the relationship between Zimmerman and the person who took the photo. Are they strangers, aquainted, or possibly even friends? If it is found that they are friends, I will be more suspicious. If they are complete strangers, Zimmerman's case will have a little more credibility. What kind of witness will guy provide for Zimmerman, as well as other potential witnesses that may come forward and/or become public. We will find out eventually. However the media may try to spin this story, we won't know a large percentage of the facts until we hear them presented in the courtroom.

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The potential relationship between them ( I am assuming they are friends, though) is exactly what bothers me.

Better to let the police handle it - there is no relationship at all.

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I completely agree.

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Bless you!

Let's pray that the jury sees the REAL truth though, because I admit that I am too upset. (You are very tactful.)

Thank you for pointing out that we don't know the actual relationship. The police do, and the Prosecutor is going to tell the jury in that courtroom.

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But the prosecution has the duty of proving his guilt. Zimmerman has no legal burden to prove his innocence. That is why it is important for the media (and the People, through the media) not try and convict him before the trial even begins. We have little clippets of the whole body of facts in this case.

I hope the truth prevails in this case, even though the truth may not be comfortable for some (or many) on either side of this legal, yes, even social (in the eyes of some, anyway) battle.

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I guess other than the trial, the only thing that remains is the law itself. Governor Rick Scott has assembled a "task force" to look into fine-tuning the law. But certain lawmakers have been "shut out of the process," quoting from this link:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/04/20/468444/half-the-lawmakers-on-florida-stand-your-ground-task-force-are-alec-members-all-supported-stand-your-ground/

Despite the strong showing by Stand Your Ground supporters and members of ALEC, opponents of the law appear to have been shut out by the selection committee. Local newspaper The Brandenton Herald reports:

Other Democratic lawmakers, including some from Trayvon’s hometown of Miami Gardens, expressed interest in serving on the task force as well, but were not selected or informed of a formal application process. Many of those lawmakers have tried unsuccessfully to pass gun control legislation in the past.


Does this seem dictator-like and draconian to anyone else? Or is it just me?

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Gun Control legislation? Yes it does.

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LOL!

Well, the two sides need to come together to compromise, and my fear is that Governor Rick Scott has only invited ONE SIDE to the table. Not only is that unfair, but I'm afraid that won't work out very well for them. The Justice Department will never be through investigating those people...

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For some situations compromise doesn't produce justice but only compounds injustice.

What if the truth is something between the two families version of events? Let the investigation play out. Get all the facts first.

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I'm not referring to the trial when I say "compromise." I am referring to the committee that Governor Rick Scott created to fine-tune that (Stand Your Ground) law. We live in a democracy, which means that all of the lawmakers (especially those who represent the area Treyvon Martin's parents live in) who want to weigh in, should be allowed to. It should not be an informal thing that is done as an insider, backroom deal. That's what happened the first time around.

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Ah sorry. Now I see what you're saying.

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