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So much for the President's promise that Obamacare would not include taxpayer funding of abortions. According to final rules issued by the Obama administration, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act mandates such funding, contrary to the President's assurances and the executive order he issued "banning" abortion funding under the new law in order get Congress to pass it.

Obamacare $1 Abortion Payment Surcharge Upsets Pro-Lifers

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I haven't had a chance to investigate this much, but there are a couple of things about this article that make my spidey senses tingle.

1.) It's from lifenews.com - I've had some issues with their blatantly distorted "reporting" in the past, so I automatically don't trust them, but ignoring that...

2.) They only cite one unnamed source. It's not like we're discussing classified info that isn't supposed to be available to the public - they link to the pdf in their article. They couldn't find one single person to go on the record to discuss the ramifications of this? (And no, Tony Perkins doesn't count)

3.) I just skimmed over the actual document in question and, while IANAL, I get the impression that LifeNews is not understanding this correctly. The document makes it very clear that abortion coverage is optional and that "Obamacare" will not override any other state or federal laws regarding the funding of abortion. As far as I understand it, the sequestration of funds is for those plans that include the optional abortion coverage.

-Dan.

I agree with you, Dan, as far as what it actually says. But what I don't understand is, why the option to fund abortion? What does that mean? That the government can cover it if it chooses to? I don't get it.

But on another note. I just don't think Obama is very honest when it comes to this. He says one thing and does another, and this has been the hallmark of his presidency (holding his fingers crossed behind his back).

But like you said, the accurate information regarding this shouldn't be that hard to find. Honestly, I haven't looked that much into it. It is clear over the past 10 years... the government (specifically the Federal Gubment) is going to do what they want to do. The whole Obamacare bill is a testamnet to that.

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These are not government-provided health care plans; they are health care plans runs by private insurers. Regarding the question of "why have the option?" - these are businesses offering a service to their customers. The answer to that is likely the same as the answer to the question of why Porsche allows you to plug your SIM card into your car stereo and turn your 911 into a $120K cell phone: because somebody is willing to pay for it.



More so than any other politician?

-Dan.

More so than any president that I can remember in my lifetime. The furthest back I can remember is when Bush Sr. was in office and afterwards. There were some things he promised to do that he didn't do. And the same can be said for Clinton and Bush Jr.. My memory says that they did a lot of what they promised to do, or at least tried. I also understand that some things that are promised fail through no fault of the president. But there is almost nothing that Obama promised during his original presidential campaign that he has even tried to do, and in very many instances he did the exact opposite of what he promised to do.

These are not what I can call facts. This is just what I remember.

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Until He Returns (Rev. 2:17),
Travis

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~George Orwell

I think you might want to go back and check things. Facts may shed a new light on your recollection. Additionally, the Congressional minority has never been so belligerent and uncooperative, so there's the fact that his political reality is somewhat different than it was for past presidents.

That said, I'm not really keen on his positions on things like the Patriot Act. He's more conservative than I'd hoped.

-Dan.

IIRC,

LBJ promised not to have American boys fight a land war in Asia. Then he ordered US troops into Vietnam. (The troops there under Eisenhower and Kennedy were in an advisory role.)

Ronald Reagan promised to balance the budget. Instead, he doubled the debt.

Bush 41 promised not to raise taxes. Instead, he compromised with the Democrats on a tax hike.

Clinton promised to allow gays in the military. Instead, he settled for "don't ask, don't tell".

Bush 43 promised not to get the US involved in "nation building". The occupation in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan very quickly turned into exercises in nation building.

Sometimes, failure to keep a campaign promise is due to changed circumstances between the time the promise is made and the time it should have been kept. Sometimes, it's due to what the candidate learns after taking office. Sometimes, it's due to limits on the power of the presidency. Sometimes, it's a genuine change of mind on the part of the promise maker. Sometimes, it's due to misconstruing the promise in the first place.

And sometimes, the candidate has no intention of keeping the promise, even when it is made.

These flaws are not limited to conservatives or liberals. They affect all humans in government.

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yep

you forgot to include...sometimes they try & Congress thwarts their attempt

I intended that to be included under "limits on the power of the presidency". I intended not only de jure limits, but also de facto limits. But thanks for making it explicit.

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The only "Government-run healthcare" in the US is the Veteran's Administration.

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