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American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

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Assured

Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:38 pm

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Now it's M & M Mars (the maker of Skittles, the candy Treyvon Martin had purchased at the convenience store before he was killed) and the Arizona Public Service Company, in addition to the other 7 companies who had already left ALEC:

http://floridaindependent.com/75123/alec

It's a total of 9 companies now:

Coca Cola
Pepsi
Kraft
Intuit
McDonald's
Wendy's
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Arizona Public Service Co
M & M Mars

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:10 pm

The link says 8 companies, but with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation it's a total of 9.

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:13 pm

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Brother Assured : Shalom and an Excellant Post !!! God Gave all authority to Man ; Adam to Us to Be fruitful , and multiply , and replenish the Earth , and subdue it Gen. 1 : 28 !!! Does that not mean to Take Care Of the Earth ??? Brother Gideon : Excellant Post !!! I watched a program on Pollution on " Link TV . com by a company Called * M * that was polluting the area around where it was making Chemicals for Crops , Insecticides , Herbicides ( DDT now banned ) , Etc. !!! The Earth is home for now for Clean Water , Foods , Etc. !!! Let us Christians have a Say in this topic that affects us all !!! Brother Avid Reader : Excellant Post !!! the other side of the Coin !!! Pass the Chocolate , brother !!! Yuuuummy !!! bless everyone amen shalom :wink:

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:04 am

I'm "Sister" Assured, but thank you for the compliment!

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:21 pm

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messengeroflight wrote:

... Brother Avid Reader : Excellant Post !!! the other side of the Coin !!! Pass the Chocolate , brother !!! Yuuuummy !!! bless everyone amen shalom :wink:

Ah ... I have not posted on this thread. But thanks anyway!

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:02 pm

You posted about how you eat "dog poison" aka chocolate, every day. You said that fluoride is indeed poisonous in high concentrations, but that otherwise it is not. That's why messengeroflight said "Pass the chocolate."

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:15 pm

Avid Reader wrote:

Re fluoride:
Gideon, I did not think you would be one to take scaremongering so much to heart. To disagree on grounds of your right not to have your water tampered with is your right in the US ... no problem, but to say there is "rat poison in the water supply" is open to such misinterpretation. So many things that are good in small quantities are poisonous in big quantities, including many essential vitamins, and of course it differs across species. So, yes, fluoride in a sufficient amount used to be included as a constituent in rat poison. Fluoride is added to the water supply just about everywhere here down under, in a concentration of something like one part per million, not unlike that found in "natural" water supplies before the naturally occurring chemicals are leeched out of them in water treatment plants ... and it worries me not at all, especially as dentists assure us that it keeps our teeth happy.

I also regularly eat dog poison. A small amount of chocolate can be fatal to a dog .... but it will not poison me, even in quite large quantities - contribution to obesity notwithstanding.

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:49 pm

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I had forgotten about that post - it was last December!
Apologies, messengeroflight.

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:50 am

Here's the bottom line about Treyvon Martin's death: it has focused unprecedented attention on the activities of the American Legislative Exchange Council, which created Stand Your Ground legislation not just in Florida, but all over the country.

Here's a link:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ge6xYKN55VboyiTROWoWTqk6taJQ?docId=81fb298898ca4ebca257d504ca9bcf11

Quoting from the link:

"The past month has been the largest amount of exposure about ALEC probably in its history," said Lisa Graves, a leader at the Center for Media and Democracy, which along with other groups has been targeting the organization.

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:15 pm

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It's a shame that businesses allow themselves to be bullied by anti-Second Amendment liberals over this issue. I think Florida Statues § 776.012 and § 776.013 are good legislation that simply recognize people shouldn't have to run away or be killed when threatened by others.

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:11 pm

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All kinds of special interest groups write all kinds of legislation (including your beloved Obamacare). So what? When it's done by a free-market advocacy group, you suddenly have a big problem with it? I personally know someone who works for ALEC. He is an intelligent, highly educated, rational person who espouses libertarian views that closely align with mine. To say that ALEC "leave[s] lawmakers' constituents out of the loop" is false. I live in an area where my views are not, and will never be represented in government because one party has a stranglehold on politics. For whatever reason, the people here always vote them in, even though they almost always vote for conservative ballot measures that are diametrically opposed to the political stances of the people they just voted into office (again). ALEC represents me in government because for whatever reason the majority where I live can't figure out that the people they're voting for don't hold the same values as they do.

By the way, you never provided evidence of your assertion in the title of the thread: "American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?"

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:48 pm

Legislation isn't a problem. Legislators are supposed to...legislate. But they're supposed to represent their constituents and not have Big Business at their elbow writing it with them!

And I don't care what the Associated Press says -- it isn't ONLY liberals, either theoretically or actually, who would have a problem with this scenario.

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Post subject: Re: American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:50 pm

psychobobicus wrote:

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By the way, you never provided evidence of your assertion in the title of the thread: "American Legislative Exchange Council - Pollution is Good?"

This was a poll question. Please take the poll and give us your opinion of this supposition (which does have a question mark BTW).

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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:44 am

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