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Isn't it obvious? Unlike birds or other animals, fish couldn't have been captured and kept as pets, or used in farming. The only way to dominate a fish is to catch it for food.




I suppose you cannot see that you are doing just this? You have a pre-belief that man did not eat meat and even something such as having dominion over fish or that man is created as an omnivore doesn't seem to phase you. Besides, what exactly is so special about after the flood that wasn't in place for the first people? Why would God suddenly decide eating meat was now ok?




Yes yes one is more obvious than the other but that doesn't mean eating meat was ever prohibited.




Yet you really don't know what early man did or did not do, eat or did not eat. I'd even mention Archeology knowing that early man did in fact eat meat but Christians tend to balk at such modern sciences.

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Ah yes, the invention of sport fishing!

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You are intensely focused on "fish" when there are many other creatures in the sea. Further, in the context of "dominion" clarity of the food source is given (which you have not actually interacted with). Later, in the days of Noah creatures are given for food. This doesn't mean they weren't consumed prior to this, only that humanity was permitted to now eat the creatures they had previously been given dominion over. Again, you have not interacted with the Scriptures. Instead, you have imposed what seems "reasonable", but is not what the text of Scripture actually says. Being an omnivore is a modern classification that is helpfully only for grouping of species (it is descriptive), but says nothing about God's intention for what should or shouldn't be eaten (which is pre- and/or proscriptive).

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Oh I sure hope there is bacon! But I doubt it...I'm an avid meat eater and I've considered the references about dominion over the animals, etc. But here's my take.

Even as a 'devout' meat eater, I can see that overcrowding animals in cages for the sake of an efficient meat industry is hardly what I would consider stewardship of what God has given us to have dominion over. A cow raised for years in an open pasture, grazing on natural vegetation and used for milk and eventually humanely slaughtered...THAT can be argued as good stewardship of resources.

In the overall history of the creation approach...I believe that God took his hand off the creation and part of sin entering the world is seen in the laws of thermodynamics...greater disorder in the natural world. Part of this is seen in genetics as mutations accumulate throughout generations slowly deteriorating the original, perfect genetic code that God created in plants and animals. As such, its certainly possible that the original 'created' plants were nutritionally superior and capable of providing all vitamins, minerals, aminos, etc. At such time in history, perhaps it was unnecessary, and maybe even unheard of...to eat the flesh of animals.

With the accumulated genetic flaws in the living world, perhaps God in His mercy conceded the eating of meat within the context of a fallen world with free will and consequence...much as He has conceded, although not approved of, the existence of divorce, war, slavery, etc.

Perhaps when the creation is restored, we will have no need, nor desire, to consume animals. Maybe apples will taste like bacon!

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lol...wouldn't that be due to God being specific that man had dominion over the fish, and not other sea creatures?

Gen_1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.





I interacted with a salad when I had dinner today.

I already commented that it's clear God let man eat vegetables but what is not being agreed on is eating meat and I maintain dominance over fish could mean only one thing in those days. Today is different, we have





I don't believe we can state this with certainty.




The same is being done in reverse. God never commanded man "Do not eat any animals." You are superimposing this into the scriptures. All you have is "It's ok to eat vegetables" and a later time when God said to eat meat but what is missing is a single statement that man was forbidden to eat meat. And.....AND....since when did man obey anyways? There isn't a commandment not to eat animals but even if there had been someone would have broken it anyways! If you look at the entire thing fairly, it is highly likely man ate meat from the beginning because it was never against God's commandments. It never has been. For only a time God merely limited what animals to eat and even then man broke that as well.





Man has always been an omnivore, designed from the beginning by God to be one.

Since you believe man wasn't supposed to eat meat (though there isn't anything of the such written) do you also claim animals were vegetarian in the beginning too?

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But is there even one tiny hint that would show God never intended animals to be eaten (or to eat each other)?

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Let me preface this by saying that I think its healthy to play "devil's advocate'...to be a contrarian and challenge pre-existing notions...it helps uncover assumptions, faulty logic, prejudices, etc. That said, I love me some meat and I'm not taking a doctrinaire stance on what the Lord's original intention with creation was. But I do see a strong argument that like much of creation, with the allowance of free will and the pervasiveness of sin, what God currently 'allows' is an act of mercy/grace and doesn't line up with the original intention and plan of creation. God created us nakes and Adam and Eve walked around in the buff....but for thousands of years, we've been wearing clothes and aside from God's first questioning of Adam and Eve about the leaves, there doesn't seem to be any admonition of wearing clothes....but the Lord didn't INTEND us to wear clothes did He? This may be precisely the case with our history of eating meat.

Isaiah 11:6 A wolf will reside with a lamb, and a leopard will lie down with a young goat; an ox and a young lion will graze together, as a small child leads them along.
Isaiah 11:7 A cow and a bear will graze together, their young will lie down together. A lion, like an ox, will eat straw.

Isaiah 65:25 A wolf and a lamb will graze together; a lion, like an ox, will eat straw, and a snake’s food will be dirt. They will no longer injure or destroy on my entire royal mountain,” says the Lord.

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Surely in the eternity there will be no killing or death....death itself destroyed in "hell". Even "hell" is destroyed in the lake of fire. But I don't see the beginning of this age to copycat what we find in the eternity. I see no evidence that animals would have behaved differently than they do now....nor man.

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