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Alexey, when the scriptures specifically tell us that a covenant has been made obsolete and is about to disappear, we know that covenant cannot be eternal.

Hebrews 8:6-13 6 But now Jesus has obtained a superior ministry, since the covenant that he mediates is also better and is enacted on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, no one would have looked for a second one. 8 But showing its fault, God says to them, “Look, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will complete a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. 9 “It will not be like the covenant that I made with their fathers, on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not continue in my covenant and I had no regard for them, says the Lord. 10 “For this is the covenant that I will establish with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and I will inscribe them on their hearts. And I will be their God and they will be my people. 11 “And there will be no need at all for each one to teach his countryman or each one to teach his brother saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ since they will all know me, from the least to the greatest. 12 “For I will be merciful toward their evil deeds, and their sins I will remember no longer.” 13 When he speaks of a new covenant, he makes the first obsolete. Now what is growing obsolete and aging is about to disappear. Context (NET)

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Hebrews 8

13 By using the term, “new,” he has made the first covenant “old”; and something being made old, something in the process of aging, is on its way to vanishing altogether.


(1) Objection: “The covenant with Moses is eternal, so there is no ground for expecting a new one.”
Answer: The covenant with Moses is indeed eternal (see v. 13), but the conclusion that there is no new one does not logically follow. The eternal covenant with Avraham did not prevent God from making an eternal covenant with Moses, nor did the latter cancel the former (Ga 3:15–18&NN). Moreover, it is patently false that there is no ground for expecting a new covenant; this is proved by the Jeremiah text (vv. 8b–12), written six centuries before the time of Yeshua.
Stern, D. H. (1996, c1992). Jewish New Testament Commentary : A companion volume to the Jewish New Testament (electronic ed.) (Heb 8:6). Clarksville: Jewish New Testament Publications.

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

“God’s words through Jeremiah do not announce the coming of a new Law, but of a new principle of keeping the Law, according to which God forgives the sinner, writes the Law on his heart, brings him into a new relation to Himself, and makes Himself known to him.” (Manual of Christian Evidences for Jews, London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 1919, I:184.)

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

Whether Jeremiah foretold it or not, Jesus announced and declared it.
See for example
John 13:34
“I give you a new commandment – to love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another..."

But more specifically:
Matthew 26:28
" ...for this is my blood, the blood of the covenant, that is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Mark 14:24
In the same way, he also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, every time you drink it, in remembrance of me.”

Reinforced by the recollections of the writer to the Hebrews::
Heb 9:15
He said to them, “This is my blood, the blood of the covenant, that is poured out for many.

And those of Paul
1 Corinthians 11:25
And so he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the eternal inheritance he has promised, since he died to set them free from the violations committed under the first covenant.

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“Lord, in my zeal for love of truth, let me not forget the truth about love.” - Thomas Aquinas
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Hi Avid Reader greetings,
I agree with your post and I'll address it later,I've some appointment now and had no enough time.

The old covenant is the same as new covenant with some amendments.Jesus said that he came not to destroy the law but
to fulfill.He then now give new commandment that we must love one another.

THe old covenant must be amended because they rejected him.So, the result is that they lost or forget the password to
log in on heaven.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

Hebrews 7:11-12 11 So if perfection had in fact been possible through the Levitical priesthood – for on that basis the people received the law – what further need would there have been for another priest to arise, said to be in the order of Melchizedek and not in Aaron’s order? 12 For when the priesthood changes, a change in the law must come as well. Context (NET)

Alexey, note that the writer of Hebrews says a change in the law accompanies a change in the priesthood. And Hebrews 7 discusses in some detail how that Jesus Christ is now our high priest, a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek, being greater than Aaron or Abraham. There is a new principle of keeping the law. You're right about that. But the change is more than that. The law itself is changed for you. Otherwise you would be obligated to continually bring blood sacrifices to the Levitical priesthood and to keep all the other laws in the Levitical code. But now Jesus has become our high priest and our atoning sacrifice made once and for all time, mediating a new and better covenant. The heart of the law remains: love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength; and love your neighbor as yourself. So we do not through faith overthrow the law. We fulfill the central principle of the law by walking in love (Rom 13:8-10). But inasmuch as we who believe in Christ have died with him by faith, all who believe are also dead to the covenant of the law and therefore released from it so that all who believe can be joined to Christ through a new and better covenant (Rom 7:1-4).

Take a look at what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 9:20-21:

To the Jews I became like a Jew to gain the Jews. To those under the law [of Moses] I became like one under the law [of Moses] (though I myself am not under the law [of Moses]) to gain those under the law [of Moses]. To those free from the law [of Moses] I became like one free from the law [of Moses] (though I am not free from God’s law but under the law of Christ) to gain those free from the law [of Moses]. [emphases and "of Moses" parentheticals mine]

Verbatim, the New Covenant is not merely the Covenant of the Law with some amendments. It is a completely new covenant that operates on a different principle -- the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which frees us from the law of sin and death (Rom 8:2).

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Hi Gideon greetings,
I agree that the new covenant operates on principle of the law of the Spirit of Life on Christ Jesus which free us from the law of sin and death through the pronmised Holy Spirit.John 8:32

Sorry if I had made a consice quote to Avid Reader because I had to go for an appoinment on that moment so I had to say briefly that the covenant needs to be amended.

But in truth I Know that this amenments or writting of new commandment as prophesied byJeremiah 31:31-34 was a very long process before it can be known and promulgate.We can observe for more than 2000 years has passed since Jesus
died,the law of New Covenant of the Lord has promised to Israel,Judah and to the Gentiles were not yet written nor we
still do not know if what was the law to be written in our hearts and mind.We continuosly for avery long period were still
seeking,teaching to know the Lord as opposes to what LOrd said in Heb 8:7-12.

What is the law that that was sought to be added to the old law? Jesus said in 1 John 2:7-8 He wrote us no other commandment but the old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

So what is new?

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

Hi Avid Reader,
How are you my friend?
In connection of what I've said in my qoute for you,I would like to share some important view of what you mentioned about the precious blood of Jesus which he offered as a unblemished sacrifice for the redemption of us whom who believed on him.

Jesus knowing that the covenant that was confirmed by God cannot be disanulled and amended Galatians 3:15 so on the night before the hour come that he will be prosecute, he declare it to his apostle.

Paul wrote 1Cor 11:23-26 For I have received of the Lord which I also delivered unto you,That the Lord Jesus the same night he was betrayed took bread.(v.24) And when he had given thanks,he brake it,and said,Take, eat; this is my body
which is broken for you:this do in remembreance of me.(v.25) After the same manner also he took the cup,when he had supped saying,This cup is the new testament in my blood:this do ye,as oft as ye drink it,in remembrance of me.(v.26 For as often as ye eat this bread and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come.

Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of springkling,that speaketh better things than
the blood of Abel.

Heb 9:15-17 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament,that by means of death,for the redemption of the transgression that were under the first testament,they which are called might receive the promise of internal inheritance.
(v.16) For where a testament is,there must also necessity be the death of the testator.For a testament is of force after men are dead; otherwise it is of no strenght while the testator liveth.

That is the very reason why he gave the commandment of breaking of bread and drinking of the cup to establish the new
after his death.

All scripture are NKJV unless otherwise indicated.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7