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Edwin wrote:
John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
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So, when ord Gud formed man and breathed into his nostril the breath of life there were already spirit implanted on man.
Compare then to;
]quote] Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job 32:8 But it is a spirit in people, the breath of the Almighty, that makes them understand.(NET)[/quote]
Edwin wrote:

1Corinthians 2:9-14 9 But just as it is written, “Things that no eye has seen, or ear heard, or mind imagined, are the things God has prepared for those who love him.” 10 God has revealed these to us by the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knows the things of a man except the man’s spirit within him? So too, no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things that are freely given to us by God. 13 And we speak about these things, not with words taught us by human wisdom, but with those taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual things to spiritual people. 14 The unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him. And he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. Context (NET)

Job 28:20“But wisdom – where does it come from?
Where is the place of understanding?

Job 28:28 And he said to mankind,The fear of the Lord – that is wisdom,and to turn away from evil is understanding.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

Verbatim.

Thank you for your post in which you say,

“Genesis 2:7 The Lord God formed the man from the soil of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

So, when ord Gud formed man and breathed into his nostril the breath of life there were already spirit implanted on man.
Compare then to;
]quote] Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job 32:8 But it is a spirit in people, the breath of the Almighty, that makes them understand.(NET)[/quote]
Edwin wrote:
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Act 1:8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth."

What happens at Act 1:8 is not the same as what happened at Gen 2:7, perhaps the following will be of help.

Bless you.

Edwin.

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Human life is unique in that it is, "made in the image of God, and after His likeness",

Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Gen 1:27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Now what does this mean ? God is tripartite, and so are we,

1Th 5:23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

However, this only applies to Christians because God has restored to them the human spirit which was lost at the fall.

The restoration of the human spirit to an unconverted person (the natural man) enables that person to understand spiritual things, and thereby resolves the problem outlined at 1 Cor 2:14.

As can be seen from the verses below, it is the human spirit to which the Holy Spirit communicates information.

Rom 8:15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father."
Rom 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

Every blessing.

Edwin.

Edwin wrote:.
Spirit of man remain and abide with him while he lives and depart only or separate in him time of death. Man enable to understand the spiritual things when the Holy Spirit open their mind to understand the Scripture (Luke 24:45)
Edwin wrote:
Spirit of truth or life remain in man but hiding from him (John 12:36) and it is the same Holy Spirit which every Christian is anticipating to received but Jesus is clear when he says in John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot accept, because it does not see him or know him. But you know him, because he resides with you and will be in you.(NET)

Paul also reminded believer in 2 Corinthians 11:4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus different from the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit than the one you received, or a different gospel than the one you accepted, you put up with it well enough!(NET)

Regards.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

Verbatim.

Further to my post above, the following may also be of assistance, as it expands somewhat on what I have already said.

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Subject: Born Again.

Is born again that which a person becomes upon receiving the Lord Jesus as his own personal saviour, or is it what God must do to a person to enable him/her to receive Jesus ?.

PS I am not a Calvinist.

Let me explain, The unconverted are spiritually dead, see.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

This of course all happened at "The fall", see.

Gen 2:17 "for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.".. This is an incorrect translation, as it should read, "for in the day that you eat of it, dying you shall die".
That is to say, two deaths, spiritual death at the moment you eat thereof, followed by physical death in due course.

John 3:5&6.

But first a suitable background against which to view the relevant words, Let us say two different worlds, or two different modes of existence, what about Physical life, and Spiritual life. Now then how did you get into this physical world. Well you were born into it weren't you?. Now exactly how much contribution did you make to your physical birth, non whatsoever you owe your existence entirely to the activity of another, namely your human father.

Likewise your arrival into the spiritual world (If you are to get there) will be due entirely to the activity of another, namely, the Lord our God, who will then be your heavenly Father. The water refereed to in v 5 of John 3, is of course amniotic fluid which is required to be born of the flesh referred to in the next verse. In fact using Hebrew parallelism, v 6 in given in order to clear up any doubt as to exactly what is meant by water in v 5.

To sum up therefore it is clear from the text that it is impossible to be saved, unless one is first born again into the spiritual world, thus enabling one to understand the way of salvation, and thereby to receive Jesus as ones own personal Saviour.. Born again can also be translated as born from above, that is born of God.

All human life starts with conception.. A seed is planted, then some 40 weeks or so later on a child is born.. The child can do nothing in the physical world until after it is born into it.

The natural man needs to be born into the spiritual world, before he is able to receive the things of the Spirit of God, only then will he be able to benefit from what he reads. How is this done?

Well ones ability to participate in the spiritual world takes exactly the same order and sequence, firstly the Lord plants His seed (not the Holy Spirit) into a person, this is sometimes referred to as "Re-generation", that is, the making alive again of the human spirit, the spirit that died in Adam at the fall. The natural man is now able to understand the Word, it now makes sense to him, the period of gestation is not revealed, it might be a long time, or a short time, but re-birth, never, never, proceeds re-generation.

Have a look now at.

Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand, NKJ.

Note especially, "When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,"

If I go into my back garden, and plant a seed, I cannot see it as it is bellow the surface, but in due time up comes a small green shoot, and I say "I can see my seed", what I mean of course is I can now see the result of having planted that seed in the first place. When Jesus sees you offering His soul for your sin, He sees the result of His having planted His seed in you, and is therefore able to prolong His days, which He does by taking up residence inside you, in the person of His other self, the Holy Spirit.

His seed, that is God's Seed remains in you see.

1Jo 3:9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Every blessing.

Edwin.

Edwin wrote:
Agree, with your parallelism in conception of physical man but it is different in spiritual aspect.

Yes, the Holy Spirit (?) is not the seed but the Word of God (John1:1, Luke 8:11 & James 1:21) So put away all filth and evilexcess and humbly 24 welcome the message implanted within you, which is able to save your souls.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7