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(Emphasis Mine) By your statement Jesus as both all man and all God could not have been spiritually mature until he was confronted by choice??
I don’t know at what point Jesus was confronted by sin but I know that He passed the test.
If Scripture is true and I believe it is:
Hebrews 2:16-18 here is the reality of the incarnation contradicting any idea that the Eternal Son “made in the likeness of men” was not really human but simply appeared to be human “because He Jesus suffered when he was tempted”
The first Adam made the wrong choice in his maturity, the second Adam/Christ made the right choice in his maturity
Such errors arose in New Testament who Jesus was 1John 4:2-3
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cw-nf wrote:
Thus the loss involved in the fall included not only the blessing man already possessed (innocence and spiritual fellowship with God) but included the loss of what he might have become through obedience.
Hunh? You said he couldn't be mature until confronted with good vs evil. Right??
Not speaking about Jesus Christ but Adam: I said,
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“the state of innocence man/ “Adam” had by creation---maturity is moral and spiritual character cannot be granted as a gift but is gained when confronted by the choice between good and evil.
Thus the loss involved in the fall included not only the blessing man/Adam already possessed (innocence and spiritual fellowship with God) but included the loss of what he/Adam might have become through obedience.”
For the fulfilling of the divine purpose Jesus had to be made like man in every way to prove that it was possible to obey God and not sin.
Remember Jesus said, “not my will” ----I find in the New Testament that Jesus was subjected to all the limitations of human existence---using for His life and development only such resources as are available to us.
This is seen in the physical, emotional, mental, social, moral, and spiritual aspects of Jesus being
He hungered Mark 11:12 ate Mark 2:16 thirsted John 19:16 was wearied John 4:6 slept
Matthew 8:24 wept John 11:35 and died John 19:30
The Gospel record Jesus temptations also spiritual conflicts up to the hour of His death.
Luke 22:28-34 even this comfort was denied Him in His final need
This in all point goes to the root of the matter for all temptation is basically a conflict between God’s will---and self will All men are thus tempted though not of necessity by the same form of enticement---the nature of temptation will vary with nature and circumstances of the one who is tempted
The root choice which Jesus had to make Mark 14:36 was between the pressure of His own desires and the will of God for Him---in this He is one with us
In Jesus spiritual life He was not self-sustained ---but made use of the spiritual resources available to all of His fellow men.
For Jesus prayer was indispensable
Amen God bless
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