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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:01 am 
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I would like to add 2 more items to my list.

Summarizing my Jesus theology ...
-- Father God created "all things" through the Word (the Logos), who is the Second Person of the Triune Godhead
-- thereafter, this Word/Logos has been the Sustainer of "all things"
-- this Word/Logos came to earth to become Man, i.e. Jesus
-- the Holy Spirit had to play the "role" of Jesus' "father" so Jesus would not have man's inherited sin nature
-- being the Son of the Holy Spirit (God) proved that Jesus really was "the Son of God"
-- probably while in Mary's womb, Jesus' spirit(man) was filled with the Holy Spirit
-- Scripture gives this Man a ton on names/titles (many are the same as what God is called in the OT)
-- Jesus had several baptisms in the presence of that great locust-eater in the Jordan
(i.e. baptism in water, baptism with the Holy Spirit, and just possibly baptism into the church body)
-- with these baptisms, Jesus was just beginning to demonstrate how we should live our lives
(i.e. praying constantly to Father God for many things, relying on the Holy Spirit's power, etc.)
-- Jesus, "fully man and fully God" while on earth, was then, and is now, the Giver of eternal life


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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:59 pm 
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Jimd wrote:
Matthew 1:35 wrote:
And the angel answered and said to her, " The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy offspring shall be called the Son of God.
That passage, in Luke 1:35, reads to me that the Holy Spirit is overshadowing Mary not Jesus. Is there any reason to think that Gabriel refers to the Holy Spirit overshadowing Jesus?


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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:05 pm 
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Theo, yes, I agree the HS is being said to overshadow Mary, not Jesus, but I think that is the passage he is referring to. I should have let him answer rather than jumping in.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Theophilus wrote:
evangelist-7 wrote:
the Holy Spirit "overshadowed" Him
Which scripture says that?

Luke 1:
“The Holy Spirit will come upon you (Mary), and the power of the Highest will overshadow you”

Matthew 1:
“… she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. ... that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.”

Sorry, my mistake. No overshadowing of Jesus ... IMO, He wasn't even formed yet!

This overshadowing of Mary somehow produced THE BABY, who was to be called "Jesus" (Luke 1:31).

I have a couple of related questions ...

-- Did this baby have His spirit(man) filled with the Holy Spirit, i.e. was He born-again,
OR did He become born-again when He was with that wonderful locust-eater in the Jordan?

-- Did this baby have man's inherited sin nature,
OR was this averted due to Him not having a human father?


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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 7:05 pm 
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In my opinion, Jesus did not need to be born again as he was born of the Spirit. John 3:6-7

Jesus did not have the sin nature. Heb 4:15


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