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What is image-barer

Thought it prudent to recoil and explore the depths of what we are fully not in this present age and embrace what is to come in the new age

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Kola,

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

Hi Kola,

Thanks for getting us back on track. It's helpful to restate the things being discussed in everyday terms:
Unless one's thinking is influenced by the word of God and the Holy Spirit you cannot be sanctified.

That which is influenced by the world's ideas is worldly and that which is influenced by the Holy Spirit is spiritual.

Don't be surprised if I say that you must change your way of thinking.

The Holy Spirit is free to act when and where it desires to reveal God to the world. So it is with those who have become spiritual.

You are sanctified.

You can't keep your sanctification a secret.

People do not become sanctified and then hide it, but reveal it and to help others to become sanctified in turn.

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Sam

All Scripture references from the NASB unless otherwise indicated.

Sam,

That is part of the image, is it not , the more I ponder it, the more to be like Jesus (in action, word & deed) and yet we are all uniquely created, but tied together at the core of being. Perhaps an image barer is not adequate, maybe a copy...

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Kola,

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

Yes,I agree 2 Corinthians 3:18 we are all, with open face (without veil) beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are change (copy) into the same image from glory to glory, even by the spirit of the Lord.

About to be more like Jesus, in action, word and in deed I'm pondering how could it be. I think there are different gifts and grace given among us and Romans 12:3 tell us, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.(NKJV)

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

I don't if it is gifts that are the recipient of the image, maybe the image is recipient of the gift(s).
All aside I would say conforming to Christ’s image is the aim of every born again person to pursue. Jesus said anyone that wanted to follow him, was to deny himself and pick up their cross Matt. 16:24. I take that to mean, it is the responsibility of the regenerated person to pursue Christ at all costs. I’m not saying we need to go to Iran and preach the gospel and get our head chopped off. But Jesus did say who ever would find his life will lose it, but in the process find Christ Matt. 10:39.
Again discipleship is mandatory and fellowship is a must for the image to begin to focus clearly from within. Truly a life decision not meant to go alone, but with God and with other believers. I wonder now, how the Holy Spirit is enabled by our pursuing the image of God…Peace & Grace

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Kola,

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

Kolabok wrote:



5So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Gal 3

The call: God speaks His will, which is for us to believe in His Son
The response: We believe
The gift: God gives us His Holy Spirit
The work: we are given faith to confess, "Jusus is Lord"
The test: God hears our confession
The test: we are declared justified
The sentence/award: we are welcomed into the Kingdom of God

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Sam

All Scripture references from the NASB unless otherwise indicated.

Sam there are many gifts of the Holy Spirit 4sure.
What I was gravitating towards was how the Holy Spirit is involved in our “image of God” postings.
I understand the gifts and the fact Ephesians tells us we have been sealed by the Holy Spirit as a down payment for our redemption and Galatians speaks to the gifts of the spirit. But, can anyone maintain these gifts perpetually? Are we still not infected with sin? Are we complete in the image? Everyone says no to this one, right…

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Kola,

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

I imagine there are many constructs one could make

The call: Jesus calls us to be his disciples
The response: We follow Him
The gift: Jesus makes us his friends
The work: We are continue the mission of Jesus
The test: Are we doing his will
The sentence/award: We enter the Kingdom of God/Heaven. We have eternal life. We are recreated in God's image.

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John

My soul looks back in wonder at how I got over

We who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes

Hello kolabok21,
The message of Jesus in Matt 16:24 those who want to follow him must deny himself - That is, let him surrender to God his will, his affections, his body, and his soul. Let him not seek his own happiness as the supreme object, but be willing to renounce all, and lay down his life also, if required.
One could find your life here on earth very enjoyable in the pleasure of fleshly profits but finding your happiness in earhtly
things would result for your seperation to God. But if you make sacrifice in searching for the kingdom of God; the earhtly
life that you lost hall earn an everlasting life.
I agree that discipleship is mandatory and seeking the image of God must be focus from within inner person to enable us to know the spirit of truth that were within us and through the guidance of Holy Ghost which shall teach us in all hidden mistery of God. John 14:17,26

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

Yes yes and yes, where does it reside heart (phyiscally) soul (spiritually) mind (intellegical) or all places at once. Is it polluted, corrupted, stained perhaps, have lost it completely, or temporarly and so on and so forth, more theological, philospical as this is the place for it, but a desire to understand more deeply than yesterday, god willingly. For me it is like already, not yet anaology, i go, i go off to work i go

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Kola,

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

you remind me of some one else you use hang here, perhaps still does. you know who you are

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Kola,

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

I'm not a sock-puppet, if that is what you are wondering.

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John

My soul looks back in wonder at how I got over

We who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes

no not at all, coming at the scriptures from a non-denominational point of view is what I meant

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Kola,

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

I think I've got it. In the "you know who you are" you are addressing the other person.

I suppose I am critical of what to accept and what to discard from my Brethren heritage. I have found wisdom in Baptists, Anglicans, Roman Catholics, and Uniting Church of Australia, but most of them do not accept all of their denominational views. The person who showed me how to read the Bible was a teacher in a Baptist Theological College, but he was expelled for being too challenging.

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John

My soul looks back in wonder at how I got over

We who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes

indeed, people make logical choices based on the information recieved, thus it is prudent for the stewards of God's words to handle it with the whole content of scripture not mans point of view as often faults along lines...

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Kola,

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.