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athony99,
May you please kindly explain if how are we reconciled to Jesus through his death and how can we be save by his life.
In short, what thus really save us, Jesus death or his life?

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Good question. Being reconciled to God by the death of Christ is objectively, being saved by His life is subjectively. That means the elect's conversion is made certain, their regeneration and renewal. Its talking about this Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

This work of the Spirit is called saved us !

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Good question. Being reconciled to God by the death of Christ is objectively, being saved by His life is subjectively. That means the elect's conversion is made certain, their regeneration and renewal. Its talking about this Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

athony99,
Fine explanation you've show the objective and the subject by Jesus death on the cross but you did not reach the perspective of the message of his death.

Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, tha speaketh better things
than that of Abel.

Acts 22:14 And said, the God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that shouldest know his will, and see that just One, and
shouldest hear the voice out of his mouth. this the is the incorruptible seed that liveth and abideth forever 1 Peter 1:23

This pertain to 2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their
trespasses unto them; and hath commited unto us the ministry of reconciliation.

All scripture are NKJV unless otherwise indicated.

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How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

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You have my answer, thats all I have for you. The elect for whom Christ died, even while they were enemies, they were reconciled and Justified before God objectively. And it also means, everyone Christ died for shall be saved not only subjectively, but eternally. No one Christ died for can not be saved. So anyone who dies in their sins, or is condemned when Christ returns, that means Christ did not die for them..

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There are none that He didn't die for.

This has nothing to do with their abiding in Him. Jesus Himself said one must abide in Him.

butch:



This Thread is about there not being any Charges against God's Elect. Rom 8:33-34

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Yes, I know. Abiding has nothing to do with charges against them.