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yes , im trying to obbey God's Word!

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

See, so you're saved by faith!

If I don't believe in God, my repentance is nothing. But if I believe in God and repent then and only then am I saved because of faith.

The repentance is just an act of faith, so you're not saved by repentace, you're saved by faith.

oh and here's a Scripture for support

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Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

im saved by grace of God

as it says Eph 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—

so then shall i seat and do nothing? without deeds faith is dead ! so my question continues what must i do to get saved?
ok i guess u guys dont like this question , so i rephrase it so which commandments of God true believer in Christ must keep?

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

SAVED - this word is tough , my defenition of this word is different from most of u guys , if i keep walking with God and get to the end ill be saved in full meaning of this word , as it says Rev 3:5 He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.


Rev 21:7 He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.
many more of this verses

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

I don't know Alexey...it sounds like you're playing semantics to me...

You've been around this site for a while, and you can reasonably surmise people's responses....so what precisely are you looking for as a response?

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i guess u gonna say something like

Luke 10:27 He answered: “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”

so i wld like expound this two commands that sum whole Torah and Prophets!!

ok then you gonna say it means 10 commandments Exodus 20 plus 1 (John 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. )


1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
“You shall have no other gods beforea me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
3“You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”
11 John 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.



so can someone expand this 11???

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

obviously most christians stop here and dont really know how to obey and dont really teach God's commands bcs they dont really know them!

Matt 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

aint it the most important thing is to glorify God? i believe glorifying God is in obbeying his commandments! to be wise and faithfull servant

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

So, what of being a good steward? Too, general.

If we focus on the two great commands that Jesus gave as previously mentioned then it will encompass all the commandments. Jesus himself said so.

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12 And now, O Israel, what does the Lord your God ask of you but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, 13 and to observe the Lord’s commands and decrees that I am giving you today for your own good?
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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

I like this question a lot better. (though I think you left out some words? which commandments of God, do true believers in Christ, have to keep.) I think "should" instead of "have" would make it even better.

My answer to this questoin: All of them. Although, not just us (ones saved), but the whole world should keep them. I would like to add, even though we (the truly saved) are in a quickened state we still mess up, we still break commandents. It is still God's grace through are faith that keeps us saved. I can see where your having difficulty, bc it is somewhat of a circle. If we are His children we should be obediant, not we are His children because we are obediant. To say we don't have to keep the commandments would be a lie. 1 John 2:3-4

But saying you have to obey the commandments, as in that is what is saving you, would be in error. Matthew 15:8-9

Galatians 3:11 11 Now it is clear no one is justified before God by the law, because the righteous one will live by faith. Context (NET)

Galatians 3:21-26 21 Is the law therefore opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that was able to give life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22 But the scripture imprisoned everything and everyone under sin so that the promise could be given – because of the faithfulness of Jesus Christ – to those who believe. 23 Now before faith came we were held in custody under the law, being kept as prisoners until the coming faith would be revealed. 24 Thus the law had become our guardian until Christ, so that we could be declared righteous by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. 26 For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God through faith. Context (NET)

by grace through faith, not by works. works would include things you do, such as obeying the commandments.

easy peasy read letter of James

14 What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? 15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to him, “Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
20 You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is uselessa? 21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”b and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.
25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

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Hear, O Israel: The Lord our G-d, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

Nothing can give vision and purpose to our life on earth like the truth, the concept of "Holiness" Ephesians 5:25-27

The concept of holiness is so significant that it is referenced over six hundred times in Scripture.

Simplisity is an enticing idea. Matthew 16:24

It beckons us to a time when things were not so complicated, to an intangible experience we can't always find but know exist. Luke 9:23

Why? What is it we fell we've lost, and what must we relinquish in order to regain it?

For most Christians simplisity means little more than a change in lifestyle.
If this is so, King Solomon discovered the answer after having experienced extreme wealth, wisdom, and pleasure on this earth, he concluded that life is "vanity" unless men understand that God has "set eternity in their heart" Ecclesiastes 3:11

The question then is how can I join God in His purposes? Luke 14:26-27

God doesn't call us to himself for what we might bring, but rather that we might know the delight of finding our deepest needs met in all that Jesus Christ is.

What really glorifies God are empty, needy people being filled and made whole by His Holy Spirit. Psalms 34:8

Once one is aware of the magnitude of this, all else becomes trite,---awesome God's holiness sets Him apart Revelation 15:4

When Christians grasp this---our sinful state, we will fall at His feet in worship.

but that wasn't your original question.

your original question was "so which commands need to be kept to get saved?"

Alexey, when I see this question, it literally is perceived as "Keep the law to be saved." Much like when Arminians hear or read, by grace alone, they hear so if I live without repentance, it's ok? or "easy-believism" or antinomianism, living without the law.

So many times our perceptions are just plain wrong.

The Jailer Acts 16:16-39 the context.

Key passage: Acts 16:30-32
Luke wrote in Acts:

Then he brought them outside and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household. Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him, along with all those who were in his house. NET

Luke 18:9-14 the context
Luke wrote:
The Pharisee and the Tax-collector (Publican)

Jesus also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves because they were righteous, but who looked down on everyone else:

"Two men went up to the temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed, 'O God, I thank you that I'm not like other people-thieves, dishonest people, adulterers, or even this tax collector. I fast twice a week, and I give a tenth of my entire income.'

"But the tax collector stood at a distance and would not even look up to heaven. Instead, he continued to beat his chest and said, 'O God, be merciful to me, the sinner that I am!' I tell you, this man, rather than the other, went down to his home justified. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the person who humbles himself will be exalted." Luk 18:9-14 NET

Concluding Passages:
Romans 3:19-31 the context

Key passage#1: Romans 3: 20,24-25
Paul to the Church at Rome wrote:

Therefore, no human being will be justified in God's sight by means of the works prescribed by the law, for through the law comes the full knowledge of sin. ... By his grace they are justified freely through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God offered as a place where atonement by Christ's blood could occur through faith.

Galatians 2:15-21 the context

Key passage#2: Galatians 2:21
Paul to the Church in Galatia wrote:

I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing. NET

Ephesians 2:4-22 the context

Key passage#3: Ephesians 2:8-10

Paul wrote to the Church in Ephesus:

For by such grace you have been saved through faith. This does not come from you; it is the gift of God and not the result of works, lest anyone boast. For we are his masterpiece, created in Christ Jesus for good works that God prepared long ago to be our way of life.

Then many Calvinists will defend with all the past tense scriptures, which in turn, be rebuffed by the Arminians with all the future tense scriptures.

Another sore spot is this; is salvation by grace only Arminians would tell you that man is granted "prevenient" grace, that is the grace to receive grace. I know these are terribly simplified....what it comes down to the question "What part, if any, does man play in his own salvation.

A bible dictionary would come in handy here as well, since the doctrines of salvation, sanctification, consecration, dedication, propitiation, etc...may have mixed use depending on you denomination.

Suffice it to say, salvation is an event and a journey. The law is there to make sure that sin is known and that no one can claim to be without sin.

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