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Hello Most people think they do not Got to Keep the Sabbath Day, Did not say he Blessed the Sabbath , Did not God say his Sabbath is Sanctified, because he Rested from all his Work he Created? Will God mock him Self? Is Gods Word Void? Is not our God a Unchanging God? Why do you think the Sabbath was even Before the LAW was Created?

Gen 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Did not the ark Rest on the Sabbath Day?

Gen 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

God Said his Sabbath is Forever!! Did not God tell Israel to Keep the Sabbath through out all Generations. for a Perpetual Covenant.

Ex 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

God will Bless you if you Keep His Sabbath

Isaiah 58:13-If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: 14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Did not Jesus say i came not to Destroy the Law but to Fulfil it

Matt 5:17 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled

Now what did he Fulfil?

Heb 10:27- He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

That is what he Fulfilled that if you Broke one of the Commandment you would not be Killed.

Did not God say he will make a new Covenant, and Put his law in our mind and write the Law in our Hearts?

Heb 8:10 -For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.


The Holy Ghost is our Witness that God did not do away with the Commandments!!! God said he will Put his Law in our Minds and Write His Law in our Hearts!!!

Heb 10:15 - Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, 16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them.

Did not Jesus say, If ye love me Keep my Commandments? How can you say you love him if you do not Keep his Sabbath?

Does not Gods Word say that if you Break the Law in One Point you are Guiltey of the Whole?

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

James 2:10- For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Does not Gods Word call a Man a LAIR if he Says he knows him and Keeps not his COMMANDMENTS?

1 John 2:4 - He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Does not God tell us he will Abide with us by Keeping his Commandments? Do you love Jesus? Jesus tells us how to love him!!

John 14:23 - If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

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And the point that you would like to discuss is. . .???

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Dont you know the Commandments is the PATH to the TREE of Life that you may be able to enter in Gods CITY?

Rev 22:14- Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

God said his Commandments are Forever Just like he Spoke the Word LET THERE BE LIGHT SO God said blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Hello Jennifer I would like to Discuss the Sabbath day

Are you here to preach to everyone or would you like to have a discussion on whatever point you want to discuss???

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I want to discuss is the Sabbath day, The Sabbath is Friday sundown to saturday Saturday Sundown, and why People Keep it on Sunday, and many say that we do not got to Keep Gods Commandments or Gods sabbath, im not here to argue, Im here to Discuss the Word of God, To Know the Truth, Only the Truth will set us Free.

Hey elijah_101! I was wondering if other folks from the other thread posted here. I just found this board the other day myself. Still walking on egg shells myself!

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

This is a relevant passage if you want to discuss the Sabbath from Col 2:



And Romans 14:

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Were the 10 Commandments a clever invention of men and based on man's philosophy and vanity (see verse eight) or were they spoken by God?



Are the 10 Commandments something to be doubted and disputed? (See Romans 14:1). Also, is it of any consequence that the word "sabbath" can not be found in Romans 14 yet the word "meat" is found 23 times?

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

What about the other 600+ commandments? Why are you only mentioning the 10?

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Acts 15:

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Because they are two separate and distinct laws. One set was spoken by God, written by God and placed inside the Ark of the Covenant and represented His own nature and character while the other was dictated by God and written down in a book by a man and placed on the "outside" of the Ark of the Covenant as a witness against the children of Israel. That "Mosaic" law was the prescription for sin at the time that pointed to the coming Messiah.

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

The council at Jerusalem didn't mention stealing, lying, coveting, vanity towards God, dishonoring parents, murder or worshiping other gods. Do you suppose that they were giving consent to these things by not mentioning them? If not, why would one assume they were abolishing the 4th commandment by not mentioning it?

Also, keep in mind that the council of Jerusalem still managed to remind the new converts not to break two Mosaic laws, eating blood and eating "strangled" meats.

It's a stretch to suggest that simply because something wasn't mentioned by the council at Jerusalem that they were giving their blessing to ignoring the commandments.

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

So, you believe the Word of God through a prophet such as Moses is less important than the Word of God directly?

And you must also believe the apostles were in error when they said that it seemed good to the Holy Spirit that the Gentile church should not be required to follow the law?

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I never suggested anything of the sort. It should be worth noting however that I don't eat any unclean animals.



Which law? You mean Paul said to the church that they could ignore the word of God and God's commandments?

Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

If gentiles have no law to follow then Hitler's off the hook!

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860