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Antipater,

I can see that you and I have very different views on some subjects of Bible prophecy ..... not an uncommon comparative these days

We will just have to walk in different directions on this one since there can be no middle ground .... there is obviously only one valid understanding conveyed by the Bible prophets

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"A Collection of Numbers of the Beast



666 Number of the beast
668 Neighbor of the beast
660 Approximate number of the beast
DCLXVI Roman numeral of the beast
666.0000 Number of the high-precision beast
0.666 Number of the millibeast
1/666 Common denominator of the beast
666[-/(-1)] Imaginary number of the beast
1010011010 Binary number of the beast
29A Hexidecimal number of the beast
-666 Negative number of the beast
00666 Zip code of the beast
$665.95 Retail price of the beast
$699.25 Price of the beast plus 5% state sales tax
$769.95 Price of the beast with all accessories and replacements
$656.66 Wal-Mart price of the beast
$646.66 Next week's Wal-Mart price of the beast
$333.00 After-Christmas sale price of the beast
$222.00 Going-out of business liquidation price of the beast
Phillips 666 Gasoline of the beast
Route 666 Way of the beast
665 Older brother of the beast
667 Younger brother of the beast
666 UP Soft drink of the beast
666lb cap Weight limit of the beast
666 F Oven temperature for cooking roast "beast"
666k Retirement plan of the beast
666 mg Recommended minimum daily requirement of the beast
6.66% 5-year CD rate at First Beast of Hell, $666 minimum deposit
20/666 Vision of the beast
1-800-666-6666 Toll-free number of the beast
999 Australian number of the beast
6"X 6"X 6" Lumber of the beast
66.6 GHZ Computer processor of the beast
666i BMW of the beast
666-66-6666 Social security number of the beast
6/6/66 Birth date of the beast
666.AC.com URL of the beast
IAM 666 License plate number of the beast
Formula 666 All-purpose cleaner of the beast
666 calories Diet of the beast
969 Dyslexic number of the beast
WD-666 Spray lubricant of the beast
66.6 MHz FM radio station of the beast
666 KHz AM radio station of the beast
Chanel No. 666 The beast's favorite perfume
666% What the beast gives in his game


source: http://www.raptureready.com/rr-666.html

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behold, now is "THE DAY OF SALVATION" --
The apostle Paul, NASB

I like these two:

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Ha!

My favorites:

666 F Oven temperature for cooking roast "beast"

Heck, they're all good! When I'm not laughing, I often enjoy their take on things.
I like the trivia too: President Regan and Nancy moving into a house with a street address
of 666! Stranger than fiction....

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Behold, now is "THE ACCEPTABLE TIME,"
behold, now is "THE DAY OF SALVATION" --
The apostle Paul, NASB

I was one of the main speakers for a Prophecy (End Times) conference a few years ago with a good friend of mine and one of the four sessions that I was covering was actually on the "Antichrist and the Mark of the Beast" (that was the topic I'd been given to speak to). So, just for the fun of it I used a gematria calculator (I was surprised how many are available online for different languages) and figured out a way to get the name of the other main speaker (my friend) to come out to 666. So I opened with an announcement using power-point that I would show everyone at the conference just who the antichrist was because I had cracked the numeric code of mark of the beast. Needless to say it got a few laughs (he did plenty the next service when he had the mic...can't remember the topic but whatever it was he made sure to try to give me a bad time about calling people anti-christs in church and all that). What are friends for right???

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Many have attempted to pin the tail on the "antichrist" donkey in the past and all have failed

The common approach is to use a system of numerical letter equivalents for adding up the number of the beast and force fitting some one's name

This will never work because the 6+6+6 connotation given in scripture is far different

Here it is:

The name of satan's beast is already given .... Abaddon-Apollyon [a fallen angelic like Satan]

This beast's number is a triad format linking Satan, his beast, and the human little horn of Daniel's visions

The numerical 6 is used as a symbol of satanic imperfection

6 Satan
6 Abaddon-Apollyon
6 the human little horn .... a king of the northern Middle East

The number of the beast is simply 6+6+6 and this will also be his mark

And also the number of a human [a man] ..... the human little horn that he will possess

No one can know who the little horn will be until the time of the end when he appears in the northern Middle East and rises to power

This time frame is still pending, but when it begins the number of the beast, his mark, and his identification will be obvious

His followers will take this marking willfully in order to identify with him

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Truth Files,
Your math doesn't "add up" . The numbers are NOT 6+6+6
They are "ἑξακόσιοι ἑξήκοντα ἕξ" (Rev. 13:18)...that is "six hundred sixty six" (though manuscript C has "six hundred sixteen" (with the support [as it is understood] of P115, and of certain manuscripts of Irenaeus). In other words, the language is quite specific. It is not ἕξ ἕξ ἕξ (six six six) but "six hundred and sixty six". This is a different matter and not one to simply be made into a simple 6+6+6 denying the actual language of the Apocalypse.

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You're both wrong! Rapture Ready confirms it's
6"X 6"X 6" or the lumber of the beast.....



Sorry, I couldn't help it. (Don't mess with Anti, he knows his stuff

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Behold, now is "THE ACCEPTABLE TIME,"
behold, now is "THE DAY OF SALVATION" --
The apostle Paul, NASB

this caught my eye as there are a plethora of posts to catch up on & not sure i wanna...

i posted a bunch of times in here arguments that only Luke 21 speaks of the 70 AD temple trampeling while only Matt 24/Mark 13 discuss the abomination of desolation -- the events Described in the Texts take place @ diff times & @ diff areas -- there are numerous similarities between the Passages which is why so many competent folks assume it's all the same Discourse

the Church won't know who the beast is as we'll be raptured before he is revealed so it's a "who cares?" kinda topic (unless done in the context of doing a verse-by-verse study of Rev)

btw -- Zech 11:17 Provides the only physical clues to this cat

"This is a different matter and not one to simply be made into a simple 6+6+6 denying the actual language of the Apocalypse."

Think about it .... and leard the relationship between Satan, his beast, and the little horn

So what is you view Antipater?

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"You're both wrong! Rapture Ready confirms it's
6"X 6"X 6" or the lumber of the beast"

So please give "rapture ready's" view Serendipity

.... and how do you know that this idea of Todd Strandberg and Terry James is correct?

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"the Church won't know who the beast is as we'll be raptured before he is revealed so it's a "who cares?" kinda topic (unless done in the context of doing a verse-by-verse study of Rev)"

But the church will know Paco .... the church will be with the Lord viewing the earth from heaven according to Revelation's unfolding

The Lord has given His revelation to us for a purpose don't you think? [2Peter 1:16-21; Revelation 1:1-3]

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& will we care @ THAT pt?! -- i think not

sure there is Purpose but determining who the beast will be is a waste when compared with witnessing, worship, etc -- if you feel Led to ascertain the specific identity (outside of region, ethnicity, & the other clues Given by the Word) then go for it -- i think it's a waste of time to delve more deeply than the generic framework we're Given by the Word

The relationship between Satan, the beast(s) and the "little horn" does not change the fact that John specifically has recorded "six hundred and sixty six" instead of "six six six". Satan and the beast(s) and the "little horn" all have a relationship one to another which is determined by the Scripture and not by the "number" given which is not 6+6+6 (as I said before). If you wish to conjecture upon how six hundred sixty six might reflect their inter-relationship then you would be in a better stead, but as it is you have created something that simply is not supported by what the Scriptures actually say. Perhaps it would help to reflect longer on the issue of the number...or better yet...to reflect instead on the Lord Jesus Christ instead of obsessing over beasts and numbers and such. The Revelation is not (after all) about such matters...it IS the Revelation OF JESUS CHRIST. The rest of it serves to point to Him and to His Father. I find that more often than not we become obsessed with minutiae of prophetic discourse and forget that all prophecy is about Christ Jesus (Rev. 19:10) if it be true.

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