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I have a topic that is not discussed often but I have a issue arising in my own home.My wife earlier this year began conversations with God and that was a huge blessing for the God of all of us to begin speaking to my wife. It first started off with her talking with angels, telling me she has spoken to Gabriel,she has spoken to Cerbium angels, you name it and she has spoken to them.The 40+ names of these angels has intrigued me.Me being a minister, I became wary of what she has been saying of late. If anyone knows that fallen angels story from Genesis, the Nephilium angels were of the union of fallen angels and humans.So my wife began telling me that she was an angel, her parents were angels, God told her that her cousins were angels, etc.I stated my case to her about the scripture and she tells me that God is not limited to the bible, which I believe, and that everything isn't in the bible and that this is another piece of the creation story.Not only that, but the Nephilium angels were God's greatest creation and it was in his will that it happened.A lot of what she said God said was going to happen, has not come to past.This is an area that I'm studying to get more understanding because I don't know it all. She is in the process of putting together a book about what God has told her and I don't know what to really do about it, because this is my wife and what she says reflects a lot on my leading her. She is not in the mood to be corrected.I try to show her in the scripture what it says against what she has been told. She says God said man wrote the bible and its not all true.Please someone who understands this, help me get some understanding.

Reality is found in Jesus Christ, Not in angles Colossians 2:18-19

Paul warns the Colossians, against such people who were called "Genostics," who came in conflict with the exlted rank and redeeming work of Christ, to whome they did not leave His full divine dignity, but assigned to Him merely the highest rank in the order of spirits, while they exalted angles as conserned in bringing in Jesus/Messianic salvation.

I believe your wife might need to see a doctor, as I had a friend who went to far in that direction, and ended up in hospital.

Pray, ask God for guidence

In response to the Bible being God's word, I would have to refer to; 2 Tim 3:16
(NIV) All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
(ESV) All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
(ISV) All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
(KJV) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(MKJV) All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

There are many areas where it is written that God told the writer to write. Unless the person telling me the bible is errant is old enough to be a witness to the writing of the thousands of fragments that bear witness to the scriptures we hold today, I must adamantly disagree with them. If my wife said to me she was an angel, I would lovingly tell her she has always been my angel. It probably wouldn't help much but one could take the head of the house stand and say enough of this blasphemy, but I'm sure that would fire off a retort.

Possibly the book of Enoch may give some history on angel worship or the like.

Hopefully this is at least supportive, I know it's not much. I will pray for you.

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Hello Apostolicman,

Most English versions of the Bible do not attempt to translate, but rather transliterate "Nephilim" from the Hebrew נְפִילִים because its meaning is uncertain. The KJV renders it "giants," probably because of the description in Numbers 13:33, but the language of Genesis 6:4 indicates that the offspring of "the sons of God" and "the daughters of men" were mortal men. They were "famous men" (NET) or "men of renown" (KJV, ASV, RSV, ESV), and the Hebrew word for men, אנושׁ (enosh), in Genesis 6:4 properly means mortals. That means the offspring were not angels.

These men were apparently all destroyed in the flood (Gen 7:21-23; 1 Pet 3:20). As the meaning of "Nephilim" is uncertain, the term could be descriptive--meaning something like 'mighty' or 'powerful'--rather than being a designation for a race of super beings (assuming that the sons of God in Genesis 6:4 were angels). If that is the case, the perceived observation of Nephilim in Numbers 13:33 does not mean that the offspring identified as Nephilim in Genesis 6:4 survived the flood. The Nephilim of Numbers 13 may have been so described simply because they were big and powerful. It's also possible that the Israelite spies figuratively identified the giants whom they saw in Canaan with the antediluvian Nephilim because of their large size even though there was no biological connection. But the Bible is clear that only Noah and his family (including his sons' wives) survived the flood and it is improbable that any of them were Nephilim, particularly since the Nephilim were associated in Genesis 6 with the evil and wickedness that God sought to wipe out through the flood. How then could your wife be descended from a population that was destroyed in the flood?

If the "sons of God" in Genesis 6:4 were angels, then it appears that Jude speaks of them.

Jude 1:6-7 6 You also know that the angels who did not keep within their proper domain but abandoned their own place of residence, he has kept in eternal chains in utter darkness, locked up for the judgment of the great Day. 7 So also Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighboring towns, since they indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire in a way similar to these angels, are now displayed as an example by suffering the punishment of eternal fire. Context (NET)

Clearly God disapproved of what these angels did and he punished them for their actions. And since he so disapproved of what they did, the Nephilim could hardly have been God's greatest creation. Nor could it have been God's will for the angels to do what they did.

Your wife's beliefs are certainly unscriptural. But telling her that may not help since she does not respect the scriptures as God's word to man. IMO, there are two likely explanations for her aberrant beliefs. One is that she has a mental problem of some kind, in which case, you should seek professional help. The other is that she has indeed been having conversations, but not with God's holy angels. We are told that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Cor 11:14), and it is possible that your wife has been listening to a lying spirit and has been deceived by it. In that case you are faced with a spiritual battle, and I would encourage you to fast and pray together with others you know that the deception might be broken.

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My thought its that your wife has been deceived & is hell-bent on traveling down the wrong path -- she is being oppressed

NOTHING she said is Biblical...nothing

RUN to God in prayer & fasting & seek others to support you

She should not be allowed to "infect" others with these tales so must be rebuked, publically if necessary (Gal. 2:14)

You were wise to shed light on this situation & seek council -- remain vigilant so you, yourself, won't be deceived & then "infect" your flock

1 Tim 2:5 5 For there is one God and one intermediary between God and humanity, Christ Jesus, himself human, Context (NET)