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ummm eye boucning ? POR QUE? it is not a matter of the eye that causes lust but one of heart . I know exactly what you deal with I deal with it also . We must seek to have a heart like Gods to see lovely ladies like He dose (and He is with out lust).

To "eye bounce" is not, in and of itself sin (as has been stated). Other than that, only this can I afford you, a friend of mine once talked to a 98 year old man about this exact same thing (different terminology). He asked the elder Christian, "At what age does this STOP!?" The wise follower of Christ smiled and replied, "It doesn't."
'Nuff said from me.

Very common but serious subject. eye bouncing is the first step of falling into the trap of satan. satan has very less hope when we do eye bouncing but when we fix he get hold. so only fasting and meditation about gods word can help us in this matter

I have not heard the term eye-bouncing before. Maybe - finally you have to learn to appreciate a woman with out desiring her. It is not wrong to note the curves or appearance of a woman, It is wrong to use that appearance for your gratification or stimulation.

I always transfer my reaction to my wife, If I see cleavage, i note the cleavage, and thank God foir making women, but I move my thought to my wife. It is not wrong to appreciate the beauty of women, but we are only to think of our wife with regard to sex.

John

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I have that "problem", too. See my thread: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=13342

Face it: you are a healthy male with a functioning pair of eyes and hormones. That's the way God made us.

So yeah, I'm sorry to say that you're stuck with it the rest of your life. Just try not to make it obvious when you're scoping out the scenery.

Sorry, that's all I have for you.

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"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5:14

Though the Lord did make us with functioning eyes and place in us the hormones for reproduction His creative work did not include the sinful inclinations of our heart which we all inherited from our father Adam.

Seeing the women in question as the enemy is just more work of the true enemy. Rather the enemy is the evil which so easily besets us. IMO prayer for the lady or ladies in question is helpful. Praying for their salvation and praying for the future or current husband to be Godly and faithful to her. Like John, I redirect my thought to my wife. To desire her is a good thing!



It is true that in this world we shall always struggle with sin. There will be a time in our future when sin shall be completely and totaly removed and, in God's prescence, we shall be free from such struggles. Trying to not make our sinful glances obvious is not a Biblical admonition. Grasping our wrongs and struggling against them is. Biblical admonition encourages sharing/confessing our sins with other mature believers and seeking prayer, support, & advice on how to defeat such obsticles in this present evil age (James 5:16, & 1 John 1:9).

Blessings,
Randy

From Adam? I thought "Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner." (1 Timothy 2:14, NIV)

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Some say Jesus was not a pacifist...

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5:14

Whether Adam was deceived after Eve or chose to sin without deception does not really matter in terms of our inheriting a sinful nature from him. We did inherit our sinful nature from him.

I don't know how that works, but I believe the bible at that point.

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So where does it say we did?

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Some say Jesus was not a pacifist...

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5:14

We can see that in Rom 5:12, Hos 6:7 and Rom 5:18. Yes I know that none of these say in so many words "We inherited our sinful nature from Adam.", but we were given the ability to think.

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Randy makes a good pointI know that for myself, the more I immersed myself in the word, the study of the word and surrounding myself with like minded people, I was less inclined to look at the opposite sex, in a sinful manner. One pastor I listen to; admitted the same thing and said eventually he viewed women as sisters, and was able to have a Godly relationship with them.
When I first started "looking away" I made sure to do so a block ahead of time, (driving or walking). Didn't matter if I could discern the age I just assumed it better to focus on the car in front or a street sign. When walking, I would just look down as if in deep thought. Now it's just habit.

Blessings
Robert

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jhhopkins:

Well, I guess that, following on from your example and comments, if others are inevitably going to be in bikinis, as you say, then maybe in some circumstances it becomes even advisable for one's wife to be in one, also, if this is generally within your point?

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guykickinit:

This is a great aim, yes.

That's good. Paul says as much.

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Read the Bible prayerfully.For a wealth of sound theology, go to John 3:16.
(My wife and I are very much in love, by the way.)
I don't like extremes of temperature. I don't like extremes among preachers. People maybe think I'm extreme.But never mind about me
A true Christian is different, and the world will notice the difference.Even your tattoo, if it's faith related, it's different!

The latest neuropsychology and brain research clearly show that pornography viewing, looking at an attractive woman and other illicit sexual behaviors trigger a tidal-wave-release of powerful chemicals in the brain and nervous system.

In a process virtually identical to that of illicit drugs, an individual becomes dependent on this natural brain chemical flood for pleasure, self-medication and escape.

If we take the act of looking at a woman walking down the hall as you are following behind her. This is an escape from your stressful and busy day because these chemicals (dopamine) are pain killers.

Sex addiction is a drug addiction.

I would suggest that being in the presence of God is even more euphoric and releases more stress and "chemicals" than any drug can give us. His presence can be compared to the universe: It almost can't be explained how huge it is, how amazing it is, how lovely it is. When I fell in love with Him again, I found that going back to my sinful "vomit" (proverbs 26:11) was childish.

Let's grow up men and stop being little boys.

Brandon
Link removed see COC#11. RH

1 Corinthians 15:22

'In Adam, all die'.

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Read the Bible prayerfully.For a wealth of sound theology, go to John 3:16.
(My wife and I are very much in love, by the way.)
I don't like extremes of temperature. I don't like extremes among preachers. People maybe think I'm extreme.But never mind about me
A true Christian is different, and the world will notice the difference.Even your tattoo, if it's faith related, it's different!