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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:38 pm 
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Hello there good to be a part of this Christ centred forum.

i got saved by the grace of the Lord in the year 2003. earlier days of my spiritual life life was good. but still i struggle with some of my weakness and some times i feel that things have become worse than i was before saved which sometimes pose threat to my spiritual life. For Example when some body hurt my feelings i could not forgive them easily . even though i keep this issues in my prayers.

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 Post subject: Re: Help needed
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:54 pm 
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GS, welcome to the forum.

In this life we all struggle with spiritual weaknesses, because we are all sinful human beings. But by grace we are being conformed into the image of Christ. And this happens as we continue to walk with Christ, to immerse ourselves in the Word and be obedient to Him. Someone once told me: "It takes 6 months to grow a squash and 100 years to grow an oak tree. Which would you rather be, a squash or an oak tree?!" So take heart. You are where you are in your spiritual life, but you are not where you will one day be. Commit yourself to studying God's Word and to obeying what He shows you from His word.
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Philippians 4:6
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
That includes anxiety about the pace of your spiritual growth.

If you are struggling with sin, Romans, especially chapters 6 through 8 are a great place to study and meditate, for that is where Paul expounds on the process of sanctification. Hope that helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Help needed
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:52 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Help needed
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:31 pm 
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Hello there good to be a part of this Christ centred forum.

i got saved by the grace of the Lord in the year 2003. earlier days of my spiritual life life was good. but still i struggle with some of my weakness and some times i feel that things have become worse than i was before saved which sometimes pose threat to my spiritual life. For Example when some body hurt my feelings i could not forgive them easily . even though i keep this issues in my prayers.

Kindly help me fellow brothers
oh those early days. So filled with joy, so filled with gratitude, so filled with zeal to tell others, so filled with frustration. So filled with frustration at not knowing enough scripture, at fumbling through the bible to get the verses I needed to witness to someone, at the fruitlessness of my attempts.

Then, my struggle with a variety of life-besetting sins, oh why, oh why wouldn't the Lord take these things out of my life .... right now... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight noooooooooooooooow....

Then I was flipping through my bible and stumbled across this:
Paul to the Romans wrote:
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Absolutely not! Certainly, I would not have known sin except through the law. For indeed I would not have known what it means to desire something belonging to someone else if the law had not said, "Do not covet."

But sin, seizing the opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of wrong desires. For apart from the law, sin is dead. And I was once alive apart from the law, but with the coming of the commandment sin became alive and I died. So I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life brought death! For sin, seizing the opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it I died. So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous, and good. NET Romans 7:7-12
Wow, what a pickle...How on earth....but I kept reading
Paul to the Romans wrote:
Did that which is good, then, become death to me? Absolutely not! But sin, so that it would be shown to be sin, produced death in me through what is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful. For we know that the law is spiritual — but I am unspiritual, sold into slavery to sin. NET Romans 7:13,14

I was dumbfounded but kept going...
Paul to the Romans wrote:
For I don't understand what I am doing. For I do not do what I want — instead, I do what I hate. But if I do what I don't want, I agree that the law is good. But now it is no longer me doing it, but sin that lives in me. For I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my flesh. For I want to do the good, but I cannot do it. For I do not do the good I want, but I do! the very evil I do not want! Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer me doing it but sin that lives in me. So, I find the law that when I want to do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God in my inner being. But I see a different law in my members waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that is in my members. NET Romans 7:15-23

Man, that hit it right on the head, pinpointed it with accuracy far superior than any set of coordinates for artillery, missiles, or laser guided munitions...and I felt it pierce my heart, and I was filled with sorrow...and I became
Paul to the Romans wrote:
Wretched man that I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? NET Romans 7:24

Crushed, and by now, I'm really reading slowly...
Paul to the Romans wrote:
Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin. There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. NET Romans 7:25, 8:1
What? What? You mean...there's hope? Oh Praise God! Praise the Lord! Thank you Jesus! Thank you Holy Father! Thank you Holy Spirit! Oh thank you thank... you thank....

The weight of the penalty of sin was gone, and the power of sin has been broken...and we are to
Paul to the Romans wrote:
Therefore I exhort you, brothers and sisters, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a sacrifice — alive, holy, and pleasing to God — which is your reasonable service. NET Romans 12:1
Just what do they mean a living sacrifice? Then I heard in a sermon one day
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the problem with a sacrifice is that the animal had to die. Not so with a living sacrifice...it keeps crawling off the altar.....you really have to nail it to the cross...
and this is just what you are experiencing...just like the rest of us...we all struggle with sin...some small inconsequential thing that we keep hidden, out of sight, tucked away...taking it out when we are truly alone...and it's hardly surprising that everyone has their own and they are potentially all different....could be a big sin, like sneaking a binge in on a weekend, sneaking into the local porn shop, sneaking office supplies home from the office, or something else...whatever it is "some days you get the bear, other days the bear gets you"... sometimes it's just smarter to stay out of those woods!

It takes time to build defenses against this stuff, when the world keeps pumping this stuff at us through every media format, in the widest of possible scenarios...that's why diligence, disciple, and accountability to other men is crucial.

Time is always a factor... it takes time...

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 Post subject: Re: Help needed
PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:29 pm 
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I have been a christian sense the age of 18 and I'm 54 now what you are experiencing is normal we all have temptations our mountain peak times and our times when we are in the valley, but as long as we are in these bodies its something you will have until the Lord calls you home, the demons of oppression will always look for your weaknesses and you will have to be prepared when it comes so don't get the feeling you are fighting these battles alone we all are.. some of us are a little more mature than others in the arts of spiritual warfare and are better able to fight off the advances of the devil and his demons.. Even Jesus had his time in the wilderness with the devil and we will to..

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 Post subject: Re: Help needed
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Welcome to the forum, GodzServant!

I agree with what others have already said. Our sanctification, the process wherein we are conformed to the image of Christ, takes time. And although sanctification is the work of God in us, there are things we must do to cooperate with him in that work—studying the scriptures and practicing them, praying without ceasing, making ourselves accountable to one another, etc.

Mike mentioned Romans 12:1, where we are told to present our bodies as a living sacrifice to God. In the very next verse Paul wrote, "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind...." There is a direct connection between our minds and our hearts. The message of the cross comes to us through our minds, we believe it, and our hearts are then changed by the power of God's Spirit. I'm not talking about justification necessarily (that's another topic), but about the process whereby our affections and our allegiance are transferred to God and to his Son.

We lead off with our minds and then follow with our hearts, our behavior, and our character. Therefore what we believe is of critical importance. The thing is, we do not always truly believe what we think we believe and say we believe. What a man really believes is revealed by what he does.

For example, ask any Christian if he believes in the omnipresence of God and he will tell you he does. But if he is practicing some secret sin, his behavior proves that he does not really believe in God's omnipresence. He sins in secret, not wanting others to know what he is doing because he knows it is wrong and he's ashamed of what he's doing. But if he truly believed that God is always in the room with him, he would know that nothing he does is really in secret. Whatever he does, he is doing right in front of God. If he really believed that he is always in God's presence, he would not continue to do those things of which he is ashamed.

The Bible talks about Satan as a deceiver, a liar, and the father of lies. It also talks about the deceitfulness of sin. Sin and the deception inherent in it will ensnare, imprison, and enslave a man. But knowing the truth, Jesus told us, will set a man free.

Dr. Del Tackett, the "tour guide" for Focus on the Family's The Truth Project, says that every besetting sin in a believer's life can be traced back to the belief in a lie. If he's right, and I think he is, and there is some sin that continually entangles us, then we should ask ourselves if we really believe what we think we believe. Have we believed a lie?

Living in a fallen world we are constantly bombarded with lies of every kind, many of which are unspoken assumptions. And the unspoken assumptions are particularly insidious because they are not immediately recognized for what they are. Watch your favorite TV shows carefully and you will see them. The hero character who is admirably portrayed as self-sufficient assumes the lie that self-sufficiency, as opposed to dependence on God, is good. The beautiful couple portrayed as living blissfully in sexual immorality assumes the lie that sexual sin has no consequences. In the opening scene of the now famous series, "The Cosmos," Carl Sagan says that the cosmos is "all that there is, all that ever has been, and all that ever will be." If Sagan had come right out and said "there is no God," the series would not have gained public acceptance. Clearly that was the unspoken assumption in what Sagan did say, but most people didn't recognize the unspoken lie.

If you have believed a lie that is at the root of some besetting sin, I encourage you to first identify the lie. Then, if possible, identify the source(s) of that lie in your life so that you can readily see it for what it is when it surfaces. And then, of course, study the relevant truth(s) that God has revealed to us in the scriptures and meditate on those truths until you are transformed by the renewing of your mind. That is, after all, how we are changed into the image of Christ—by the renewing of our minds.

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 Post subject: Re: Help needed
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Dear Brother Gideon thank you for making things simple Praise god


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