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 Post subject: Re: Names of God
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I have done several studies on the names of God and they are very rewarding. Please note I have used the name Yahweh rather than Jehovah.

Yahweh-Tsidkenu = Ps. 5:8 He is my righteousness
Yahweh-Shalom = Jn. 14:27 He is my peace
Yahweh-Yireh = Phil. 4:19 He is my provider
Yahweh-Rophe = Jer. 17:14 He is healer
Yahweh-Nissi = Ps. 18:35 He is my victory
Yahweh-Rohi = Ps. 100:3 He is my shepherd
Yahweh-Shammah = Matt. 28:20 He is my Ever Present (One)

These are from a poster in my study where it hangs on a bookshelf.


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El Olam = Everlasting God
Adonai or Adonay = Lord

I forget the Hebrew for these
The Amen
The Word

From Revelation 3:14
‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God

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GaryM,

Nice post.

I wonder why some people render this word as "YHWH". Is that an attempt to make it more like a tetragrammaton? How do most jews read tetragrammaton when they see it in the text?

BTW, for a few laughs, search for "YHWH Apologetix" on YouTube.

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You guys may like this from Aaron Jeoffrey on YouTube

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Yes, YHWH is intended to indicate the tetragrammaton of the Hebrew text. It is indicated this way by many because the vowels themselves are not provided in the ancient texts. It is the unpronounceable Name and therefore is written in a fashion indicative of this sacredness.

When reading the Hebrew text, most often, one reads "adonai" (Lord) for YHWH, though there are syntactically compound forms which alter this. In other cases (in more conversational manner), Jews may offer "hashem" ("the Name").

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 Post subject: Re: Names of God
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According to the Bible, the name of God was used during the lifetime of Adam and Eve, Gen 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
But by the time Moses was born, the scriptures imply that none of mankind still knew the Name. In the Book of Exodus, God commands Moses to tell the people that 'I AM' sent him, and this is revered as one of the most important names of God according to Mosaic tradition.
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Exo 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Exo 3:15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. Exodus 3:13-15 (KJV )

Then the Lord gives 3rd commandment Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

From then up to present the names of God reaches up to 1001 names yet God sworn in book of Isa 59:21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.
In Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

All known given names such as YHWH, YAHWEH, El SADDAI JEHOVAH and many more names does not correspond with Exo 3:13-15 , Isa 59:21 , Act 4:12 much more to Jesus new name in Rev 2:17 & Rev 3:12

So, what is God’s true name?

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 Post subject: Re: Names of God
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So, what is God’s true name?


In human language, we use names to identify members of the same class. There is no other in the same class as God. Entities like Dagon, or Ishtar, or Jupiter aren't in the same class. They are all false gods.

Since there is only one, a name is unnecessary for this purpose. If a name is needed, it is for some other purpose.

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Since there is only one, a name is unnecessary for this purpose. If a name is needed, it is for some other purpose.

If name is unnecessary since there is only one name,so, he preaching of Jesus to his apostle is vainly when he declare the name of the Father.
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John 17:25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
John 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.(context KJV)

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 Post subject: Re: Names of God
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A couple of brief comments:
1. When teaching the disciple to pray, Jesus instructed them to begin by addressing God as "Our Father" Matthew 6:9

2. When commissioning the disciples to go to the world and make disciples, Jesus tells them to baptise people in "The name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" Matthew 28:19

3. Other "names" in the NT are descriptive, e.g. "Lord God Almighty"; the "Lamb of God"; the "Counsellor" or still others like "the Father of mercies" and "the God of all comfort" ( 2 Cor 1:3) etc.

I do not think a more specific or personal type of name is given under the New Covenant. Nor do I think we need, or are to use, any such more specific name when addressing God in prayer or when speaking of Him.

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 Post subject: Re: Names of God
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Sister Sally greetings,
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A couple of brief comments:
1. When teaching the disciple to pray, Jesus instructed them to begin by addressing God as "Our Father" Matthew 6:9

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Hallowed means to praise or sacred the Name, how could the apostle praise the name who they don’t know?
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2. When commissioning the disciples to go to the world and make disciples, Jesus tells them to baptise people in "The name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" Matthew 28:19

To baptize is to preach and how could one preach the Name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit if they do not know the names they will preach.
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John 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
John 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
John 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

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3. Other "names" in the NT are descriptive, e.g. "Lord God Almighty"; the "Lamb of God"; the "Counsellor" or still others like "the Father of mercies" and "the God of all comfort" ( 2 Cor 1:3) etc.

Agree, but not all descriptive, some is subjective, John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
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I do not think a more specific or personal type of name is given under the New Covenant. Nor do I think we need, or are to use, any such more specific name when addressing God in prayer or when speaking of Him.

I will let Scriptures interpret Scripture.
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John 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.


All Scriptures are KJV unless otherwise are indicated.

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 Post subject: Re: Names of God
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With respect, "to hallow" means to make holy, to deeply respect ... to treat as sacred. It does not mean to praise, as in to speak praises of.

And the "Name" that we preach? "The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" ... that is His name.
Sometimes we refer to the indivisible, One Lord God who is the Trinity - the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit;
Sometimes we refer to one of those Persons, such as when Paul says, "We preach Christ and Christ crucified."

If we needed to know more, would not it be found clearly in the Scripture? Jesus indeed shows the way to God ... who he repeatedly calls "Abba" or "Father" in the gospel records; through Jesus we can indeed know God and know Jesus as our Lord and Saviour; and are not the scenes you quote from Revelation either about a new name for believers, or possibly in the future? Surely these verses indicate the sealing of believers as belonging to God, rather than bringing any command to discover for ourselves the name which will placed upon these ones by the Lord himself.

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With respect, "to hallow" means to make holy, to deeply respect ... to treat as sacred. It does not mean to praise, as in to speak praises of.

If "to hallow" means to make holy, to deeply respect ...to treat as sacred, what do you think the apostle could add to make the name of God be holy similar to Jesus prayer to Father and the Father answer him. John 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
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And the "Name" that we preach? "The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" ... that is His name.
Sometimes we refer to the indivisible, One Lord God who is the Trinity - the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit;
Sometimes we refer to one of those Persons, such as when Paul says, "We preach Christ and Christ crucified."

I respect your faith and belief for there are many diversities of gift but from one Spirit.
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If we needed to know more, would not it be found clearly in the Scripture? Jesus indeed shows the way to God ... who he repeatedly calls "Abba" or "Father" in the gospel records;

Yes, agree that Jesus want us to know through the Scripture and that is the reason why he call Abba to Father to demonstrate to us how to call the Father. Mark 9:37 & Luke 9:48
Mar 9:37 Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.
Luk 9:48 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.
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through Jesus we can indeed know God and know Jesus as our Lord and Saviour; and are not the scenes you quote from Revelation either about a new name for believers, or possibly in the future?

Yes, indeed I believed we can know more revelation through Jesus and what I quote is a possibility.
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Surely these verses indicate the sealing of believers as belonging to God, rather than bringing any command to discover for ourselves the name which will placed upon these ones by the Lord himself.

Yes, it is through God’s works and not with our own effort and likes.
Thanks and God bless.

All Scriptures are KJV unless otherwise are indicated.

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My deepest apologies!

As a moderator, at times I review all new posts for spam and so on, and forget to check what room a thread is in so as to stay out of the Garage. The title of this one just seemed like what I would find in general bible discussions, so I did not even think to check.

So, just to reply to brother Verbatim, I will merely suggest that the Apostles only needed to preach the gospel to reveal the glory of God so that his kingdom will grow. Then more and more glory has been and will be given to him by those who are being saved. I must then leave any further discussion to my brothers in the Lord.

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Sister Sally,
I think there is nothing to apologize since the OP is misplaced and must not be in Garage because it is a topic for all to study disregarding of gender. However, we must obey in Forum guidelines. I was very glad to have some discussion with you my sister and mentor during my early days here at the Forum.
Thanks and God bless. Your brother in Christ,
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