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This special Sub Forum is to study the book of 1 John.

Welcome to a walk through 1 John, which is a fascinating look at practical Christianity, traditionally believed to be written by John the “disciple whom Jesus loved”.

This is an important letter for Christians because it combines teaching about God with what this means for us, and how to apply what we have learned in our day to day life.

The book begins with John’s personal testimony to the reality of Christ, and ends with him saying :

1 John 5:13 13 I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. Context (NET)

And isn’t that one of our deep needs as a Christian? … the assurance of eternal life.

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 Post subject: 1 John 2:18-27
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1 John 2.18-27 18 Children, it is the last hour, and just as you heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. We know from this that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us, because if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But they went out from us to demonstrate that all of them do not belong to us. 20 Nevertheless you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know. 21 I have not written to you that you do not know the truth, but that you do know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is the liar but the person who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This one is the antichrist: the person who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either. The person who confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 As for you, what you have heard from the beginning must remain in you. If what you heard from the beginning remains in you, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 Now this is the promise that he himself made to us: eternal life. 26 These things I have written to you about those who are trying to deceive you. 27 Now as for you, the anointing that you received from him resides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things, it is true and is not a lie. Just as it has taught you, you reside in him. Context (NET)


This is an interesting section for several reasons .....

For me, it is one of the passages that speak to me about the assurance that God's people have, and should have. As well as explaining the heartbreaking problem when someone, who to all intents and purposes appears to be a Christian, leaves the faith. John here states, that they were never really Christians to begin with.

In my personal reading, I have just read, in Matthew 13.1-23, Jesus' parable of the Sower. Here Jesus also speaks about seed that sprouted well, but for various reasons did not ever produce a crop. And I wonder if John was remembering Jesus' teaching.

John also brings up the topic of the "Antichrist". According to I.Howard-Marshall, in the New Testament, this term is only used in the Johannine letters. In verse 22, John explains what he means by this term ... those who oppose the true teaching about Christ. The word can also describe people who claim they stand in the place of Christ and/or are Christ, and in this John may be remembering Jesus' teaching on the Mount of Olives as recorded in Mark 13:22.

Taken with Jesus' own teaching it seems unlikely that John necessarily expects Jesus to return immediately (as John tried to make clear at the end of his gospel). I.Howard Marshall thinks that the reference in Revelation 13:19-20, points to a final, great arch-enemy of Christ (c/w Paul's "man of lawlessness" in 2 Thess.2:1-12).

What does this mean for us? .... just that there will be ongoing opposition to Christ and His church through all the time while we wait for His coming. So that we should not be surprised by the rise of world leaders and world powers opposed to Christianity. But we are to take care that we are not deceived by any of them.

How are we to do that? .... one way surely, is to make sure we know our Bibles well enough, and to know the orthodox teachings and doctrines of the Christian faith, well enough so that we know when what someone says is either not found in Scripture, or is a subtle twisting of what it says.

A reasonable grasp of Church History would also help, as I have noticed most of the heresies have appeared over and over again, often just slightly changed and using a different name.

And above all, we must make sure our relationship with God is alive and growing ever more intimate, and to do all in our power to make sure this is so. Because a close walk with God will make sure that we are listening to the voice of the Holy Spirit who indeed indwells all believers.

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 Post subject: Re: 1 John 2:18-27
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A most timely message for the world today, eh, Dinah? This is what bugs me when people say the Bible is out-of-date. Its books are as current now as when they were written. As you say, the heresies never change, just the names of the heretics propagating them.

Re: antichrists -- I recently heard a pastor remark that the devil doesn't know when Christ will be returning so he raises up antichrists in every generation to play the role described in the Book of Revelation, not knowing when those prophecies will be fulfilled any more than we do. I hadn't thought of it that way before. But all is in God's control.


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Our brothers and sisters are always under the threat of heretical teaching. When the evangelical leaders at the turn of the previous century rallied around the "fundamentals" of the faith - Methodists, Brethren, Presbyterians, Baptists, and others joined together to affirm those things by which Biblical Christianity may be recognized.

It is odd how one, say methodist, will defend heretical methodists - just because they are methodists. Baptists do the same thing.

As it is hard to face these tings with church families, how much more with those who are our kin. It is just so hard to believe that that person with whom you have shared so much has rejected the Gospel.

May we learn to fight those battles which are essential and lovingly co-exist with those differences which are non-essential.

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 Post subject: Re: 1 John 2:18-27
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:36 am 
Thanks for your comments re "antichrist". Just lately I have been taking a second look at John's comments in 1 John. I have several questions someone might respond to.

John speaks of "many antichrists" in 1 John 2:18. However, in no other NT Book/letter (except 2 John) is the word "antichrist" mentioned. Why is this, I wonder, and what concern should we have, if any, about identifying a specific person as an/the antichrist since John does not identify a particular personage as such?


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Jack

firstly, welcome to the forum :D

John himself answers your question :

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22 Who is the liar but the person who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This one is the antichrist: the person who denies the Father and the Son.


that is why there have been many 'antichrists' from the beginning of the Church, and many still today. I do think from the rest of the New Testament a case can be made for a particularly evil and powerful leader who will be the culmination of all those who have come before him, and who will be manifested in the world just prior to the return of Christ.

For a good series of sermons on Revelation from an Amillennial point of view, Riddlebager's series is very good.

http://kimriddlebarger.squarespace.com/downloadable-sermons-on-the-bo/

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