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I ran across this in my mailbox
Who Are China 's Top Internet Cops? ( September 29,2006 , chinadigitaltimes.net, by Xiao Qiong)

Last week Foreign Policy published an interview with Li Wufeng, the director-general of China 's State Council Information Office, the agency in charge of regulating internet content inside China .

http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2006/09/ho ... t_cops.php
[quote]ï¼·ho are China's Top Internet Cops?

By Xiao Qiang :: 2006-09-28, 06:03 PM :: Human Rights

Webcast Livephoto 2005 581 7901 Last week, Foreign Policy published an interview with Li Wufeng, the director-general of China's State Council Information Office (SCIO), the agency in charge of regulating Internet content inside China.

The Foreign Policy reporter Mike Boyer called Li "China's Top Internet Cop" and then quoted Li as saying "We have neither the technology nor the manpower" to censor or filter the Internet, ...... We have just dozens of people in the Internet affairs bureau. Half of them are here today [in the room] "

In fact, Li is not a "cop," as the Information Office of the State Council is neither a public security nor state security agency. The real Internet cops are elsewhere. For starters, we could search "Internet Police" (网络警察）on Chinese search engine Baidu, and we will get 292,000 results. Page after page are Internet Police websites in different cities and provinces outlining their functions. Read this, this and this.

What about the technology that Li claims he doesn't have? Another search through Chinese blogosphere and BBS will uncover some very useful answers, including to the question, Who is China's top Internet cop?

Here is a very revealing BBS commentary at a techie BBS, loveunix.net, posted by a hacker named "sinister" in July, 2006: The Inside Story of the Great Fire Wall (Translated by CDT):

I am a network manager of a telecom company (sorry I don't dare to disclose the name of our company).

I can confirm that the operating unit which is responsible for blocking and filtering the national gateways belongs to the Ministry of Information Industry. Before we can expand our bandwidth, we have to ask for their permission, and tip them a "surveillance and control fee." They are shameless.

Additional administrations are involved in the surveillance and control of our provincial and municipal networks, including the Ministry of Public Security, the Ministry of State Security, the Commission for Discipline Inspection, the Army, etc. Their operations often stress the limits of our capacity.

A few days ago, a deputy director of the Bureau of Internet Monitoring of the Ministry of Public Security, whose name is Gu Jian (顾�), had a conversation with us about renting our bandwidth. He said the state government allocated a large amount of funds for the use of the online information surveillance and control project.

How could a Bureau of Internet Monitoring have this huge amount of money? We were suspicious. We managed to unearth the truth using our connections with the Information and Telecom Bureau and the Golden Shield Project of the Ministry of Public Security. They were surprised too, and said it was impossible because leasing bandwidth is the business of the Information and Telecom Bureau.

Later on we discovered that the project Gu Jian was talking about has nothing to do with bandwidth leasing. What the project really needs is an interface on our network for monitoring purposes. Gu, however, was asking to rent our commercial use bandwidth, which is not related to interface monitoring.

The undisclosed aim of the Bureau of Internet Monitoring and Beijing Municipal Department of Internet Monitoring (a director named Yu Bing (于兵) from the municipal department joined Gu Jian in the visit) was to use the excuse of information monitoring to lease our bandwidth with extremely low prices, and then sell the bandwidth to business users with high prices to reap lucrative profits. How avaricious they are!

There is no doubt that the name of the chief of the Bureau of Internet ï¼­onitoring is Li Zhao (æ?Žæ˜­). According to what Gu Jian said, chief Li is known for his political savvy. He used to be the deputy chief of the Bureau of Political Security (æâ€

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