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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:44 pm 
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As I struggle with what is acceptable link to provide I have only provided the article, however Google 'Pepsi is funding the research and development, and paying royalties to Senomyx, which uses HEK-293' and you will find plenty of sites that support it.

If this is all true, it blows me away of what we are submitted to due to a lack of knowledge. Does anyone have any further detail? eg true / false?

Pepsi Uses Aborted Fetal Cells In Flavor Enhancers
by REBECCA MILLETTE

Pepsi Uses Aborted Fetal Cells In Flavor Enhancers (May 26, 2011) Scores of prolife groups are calling for a public boycott of food giant, PepsiCo, due to its partnership with Senomyx, a biotech company that uses aborted fetal cells in the research and development of artificial flavor enhancers.

LifeSiteNews previously reported on Senomyx's partnership with major food corporations, most notably PepsiCo, Kraft Foods, and Nestlé.

Pro-life watchdog group, edited as not sure of statement of faith, is now joined by major pro-life organizations calling upon the public to target PepsiCo in a boycott.

Pepsi is funding the research and development, and paying royalties to Senomyx, which uses HEK-293 (human embryonic kidney cells) to produce flavor enhancers for Pepsi beverages.

"Using isolated human taste receptors we created proprietary taste receptor-based assay systems that provide a biochemical or electronic readout when a flavor ingredient interacts with the receptor,"
says the Senomyx website.

"What they do not tell the public is that they are using HEK 293 – human embryonic kidney cells taken from an electively aborted baby to produce those receptors," stated Debi Vinnedge, President for CGL, the watch dog group that has been monitoring the use of aborted fetal material in medical products and cosmetics for years.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:37 pm 
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Whatsoever is sold in the shambles eat, asking no questions for conscience sake; for the earth is the Lord´s and the fulness thereof. All things are good and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the Word of God and prayer.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:09 pm 
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Had some time to do a bit of Googling myself:

Pepsi Uses Aborted Fetal Cells In Flavor Enhancers - not true.

Senomyx uses HEK-293 to test flavours - probably true.

HEK-293 - grown from aborted foetal cells - well, yes and no.
Not currently made from aborted foetal cells but grown from from such cells in the 1970's and then developed into a "cell line" ever since, and widely used, not just by this one company.

Is Pepsi the only food company to be aligned with Senomyx? Definitely not - Senomyx tests flavors for human consumption and artificial sweeteners a major area of their research. Artificial sweeteners are "flavour of the month" (ha ha - l like my own pun!) in our obesity prone western culture, so lots of food companies are aligned with them. All of which makes me wonder why Pepsi has been targeted in all of this. A deal with CocaCola fell through - the cynic in me is awakened.

My opinion? A campaign that is happening 40 years too late.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:38 pm 
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This makes it a bit clearer courtesy of Brooke Lorren 'associate content'

Do you owe the taste of your food to aborted babies? While the question sounds ridiculous, the fact is that you might. Some companies are using stem cell lines derived from an aborted fetus to test flavor enhancers for the food that you eat every day. Although they are not actually putting aborted fetal cells into your food, they are using these cells in the laboratory to develop chemicals to make your food taste better. Some of the brands that are using this kind of testing include Pepsico, Kraft, and Nestlé. Although there are plenty of people that don't have an ethical problem with using stem cell lines to help cure disease, do we really want them to be used to develop our food? Perhaps this is another reason to eat minimally processed food.

Biotech Companies Using Stem Cells

Popular food companies are working with a biotech company called Senomyx to test their foods. The goal of the testing is to find food additives to reduce the amount of MSG, salt, and sugar used in the foods that they produce. Semonyx receives money to do the research, along with royalties when foods using their ingredients are sold. The fetal stem cell line, taken from the kidney of an electively aborted baby, is used to test the biochemical reaction when exposed to the food ingredients. Although they could have used cells derived from other forms of life, they chose to use the fetal stem cells.

Companies Using this Technology

Currently, the companies that have decided to partner with Semonyx include Nestlé, Pepsico, Kraft (which included Cadbury Chocolate), and Solae. Campbell's Soup did have a partnership with this company, but they chose to break their relationships with the biotech company shortly after the pro-life group Children of God for Life sent out a press release about their involvement.

Regardless it is starting to make organically grown foods sound more attractive to me and thanks for that Avid

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Hi Unworthy

I would agree with most instances however there are lines I would draw on that one

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A few years ago in the UK, there was a huge scandal when it was discovered that organs removed during post mortems at a children's hospital had been kept for medical research, rather than being returned to the parents with the rest of the body for burial or cremation. I don't think there was ever any issue over the potential usefulness of the research; the fuss was legally grounded in the lack of explicit consent, but was really about the feelings of the parents, many of whom said they felt betrayed, as if they'd had their children taken from them.
 
I've never been anywhere near their situation, so I have no criticism at all to make of the way they felt. It does strike me as warped, though, that on the one hand our society will protest when consent is assumed for the research use of the organs of children who, tragically, have already died, even though that research may prevent similar tragedies in future, and on the other hand will agree to the purely commercial use of a cell line taken from a child whose life was in effect sacrificed in order to provide it.
 
There are at least three major assumptions underlying that line of thought, which I might as well make explicit. One is that optimising the taste of manufactured foodstuffs is morally less valuable than optimising medical treatments for childhood illnesses; the second is that the life of a foetus is to be equated with the life of a child; and the third is that using the cell line of the aborted foetus is to share in the responsibility of taking his/her/its life.


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I think we should be careful about what we here about companies and the things they put in food or in their products. For example, a few years ago, there was a boycott on Proctor and Gamble products but the information it was based on was incorrect. I believe we should be responsible and careful in our accusations against companies.
I Cor. 6:19-20 reads "Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body." Our bodies are temples so we should be careful not to do anything ruinous or damaging to our temple (the body). For example, I exercise, although I do not like sports at all, I eat healthy, walk frequently and jog. When I have food products like Pepsi, Coke, candy bars, donuts and other empty calorie food I use moderation. For example, I only have a candy bar on Friday, I only have Coke on Friday, on Sunday I have two donuts and only those items on those days.
We are admonished as Christians that we are free to eat or not to eat in Rom. 14 and Paul rebukes those who have special dietary rules in Col. 3.
A year ago I noticed my blood pressure was a litter higher than usual so I cut out all caffeine (except for Sunday morning). This was my choice for my health. I keep a blood pressure chart since grandparents on both sides have had strokes, and my dad died at 63 which I consider to be young.
We are free to eat but use balance. I had 3 brownies and 2 scoops of ice cream for desert on Sunday afternoon, so therefore, I had nothing sweet to eat for the rest of the day.


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Amen. On the one hand, we should make informed decisions favoring the Lord. On the other hand, make sure it's correct information.

Yes, I remember the P&G scandal of the mid 80's, which was, in a nutshell, 2 factors were reported among Christian circles:
1. P&G administrators were into demonic worship. This turned out to be false.
2. P&G was doing heavy tax write-off by donating heavy funds to further homosexual agendas. This turned out to be ABSOLUTELY TRUE.


Since learing this about P&G in the 1980's, I have NEVER purchased anything made by P&G to include none of their cleaning supplies, baking mixes, Pringles' chips, diapers, etc.

I purchased Huggies diapers for 8 consecutive years; Colgate toothpaste, Palmolive, Lever Brothres, Kleenex brands have been purchased for the last 25 years.

On that note, I don't consume anything MSG, including dinning out. I rather cook from scratch, all natural, meals. If the food product comes with a label, then I'll read it. If what I read, I don't understand apart from "Red 5," then I don't consume that product.

However, as apostasy is creeping in and alternative agendas are becoming "normal" mindset worldwide, it's getting harder to not contribute indirectly to these "salad bowls" of perdition.
As you may perceive, food in this home boils down to mostly natural products.

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Thats the whole idea of a forum public debate

Lavender I agree
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As you may perceive, food in this home boils down to mostly natural products.
and thinking to take this stance myself or at least work to it. In the Apostle Paul's day they did not have the science to slip in such atrocities as is available today.

I have no issues with food that has been offered to idles as Paul was referring to as Idols are dead and can do no harm. However the chemicals and bits and pieces they slip in to food today is a concern for me, and if that makes me weaker in the faith
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We are admonished as Christians that we are free to eat or not to eat in Rom. 14
so be it. As my blessing will come at a later time Mat_5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

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