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Earth Clinic suggests hundreds of folk remedies and holistic cures. Did you know, for instance, that apple cider vinegar can be used to effectively treat allergies, sinus infections, acne, high cholesterol, flu, chronic fatigue, candida, acid reflux, sore throats, contact dermatitis, arthritis, gout, and high blood pressure? Because it breaks down fat, it's also widely used for weight loss. And it's good for your pets.

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Hey, Gideon,
Like you, I used to read extensively on this subject. Don't know about cider vinegar-- other than it was a health book fad in the 1960's about the same time as wheat germ.

I am, however, a believer in the benefits of supplements -- not herbal, though, of which I am skeptical. The best is also the cheapest! Megadoses (compared to RDA) of C, E,
B-complex. Minerals Zinc and Selenium (toxic at too high a dose), and a good multivitamin. Cabbage, broccolli, carrots, garlic, onions and brussell sprouts are the best veggies. I also agree with you on the sugar; it's harmless in reasonable portions and always preferable to chemical substitutes. Iceberg lettuce is nutritionally worthless. Use other green leafies for salads.
Cheers
S

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PS
One of the most promising is also cheap: concentrated tomatoes! Ketsup, tomato paste and even spagetti sauce! The spices in curry as well. I *think* it's the tumeric.

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Cale,
We both forgot the disclaimer: Never take supplements or eat food or breath without first consulting your Doctor! Seriously, it's not rocket science but some things may
be contraindicated for you and some suppliments (including vitamins and minerals) are highly toxic to everyone above a certain dose. While I'm here:
One glass of red wine at dinner.
an asprin a day (see global Dr. warning)
NO Hydroginated fats!!! Butter is bad but Margarine is deadly IMHO.
Extra Virgin Olive oil only.
Cold salt water fish--the fattier the better! (good fat)
NO peanuts--use almonds or walnuts instead.
Always take vit's and minerals with food.
Eggs are good--IN moderation.

Always Ask your doctor first.
Bon appetite!
S

"Early to rise and early to bed,
Maketh a man healthy, wealthy, and Dead."
Keith Richards

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I tried the apple cider vinegar on my guppies, they seem dead, should I use more?

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Guppy Killer!

The Doctor has his strengths and weaknesses, but I gaurantee he would never kill your guppies:

http://www.drweil.com/

S

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You're too funny, Marv!

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That's what I used to think. Actually, although it contains comparatively less nutrients than the other greens, iceberg lettuce is an excellent source of potassium and manganese, as well as vitamins A, K and C. It's also a good source of iron, calcium, magnesium, phosphorous, thiamin, B6, folate, and it contains traces of sodium, copper, zinc. The folate content, in particular, is considered helpful in preventing heart disease and strokes.

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Not recommended. Regular use of aspirin thins the blood and can lead to internal bleeding. Plus, a person who takes aspirin daily risks precipitating a heart attack if he or she stops taking it. And anyone about to undergo surgery is generally required to stop because of the blood-thinning factor.

I agree that hydrogenated oils are bad, including margarine. But I believe butter is actually a healthful fat if used in moderation.

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Yep. Sardines are particularly good for you, being one saltwater source of omega-3 fatty acids that you can be reasonably confident is free of mercury.

What? I love peanut butter! It's fairly high in dietary fiber, high in protein, rich in Vitamin E and Niacin, and it contains iron, calcium and potassium. It also contains Resveratol, the same thing that makes red wine so healthful, which is believed to provide anti-cancer, antiviral, anti-aging, neuroprotective and anti-inflammatory benefits. Studies also indicate it reduces the risks of gallstones and Alzheimer.

Yes

In fact, at least one MD I know of believes regular consumption of eggs will prevent Alzheimer's disease.

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Anyone who knows that eggs are good food is AOK in my book. As to expert differences of opinion here is The Doctor's take on cider vinegar:
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA22860

My reasoning, in order of minor differences of opinion. I could be wrong: <g>

Lettuce, like watermelon, is basically water. The nutrients are too low in a reasonable serving.

Most Docs recommend the low dose asprin IF you are not on other anti-coagulents..
Please note that vitamin E is also an anti-coagulent ("blood thinner") so the effect is synergistic. it prevents platelets and bad cholesterol from clotting the coronary blood vessels. That's why you don't want it near surgery (poor clotting). The GI bleeding is not a problem for most.

While I don't think butter is good, I, myself, use it all the time in cooking.
The trouble with peanuts isn't the recent salmonilla outbreak, but that so many are allergic to it. Almonds and walnuts have better stuff by nut standards anyway (fatty acids, nutrients).

These are just my well read opinions and biases--your mileage may vary!

Sardines are GREAT! and cheap, and tasty if you know the right brands.
I used to be into hard core amino acid supplementation, but the cost outweighs the benefits if you eat right. Please forgive my spelling.....
Regards,
S

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Of course one must understand that when most MDs talk about "evidence" and "scientific proof" they mean very expensive peer reviewed clinical trials. That's what they've been trained to respect. But most clinical trials are funded by big pharma or biotech companies -- interested parties acting with a profit motive. Nobody can patent folk remedies like apple cider vinegar, which means they can't profit from conducting expensive research, which means nobody will spend the money to undertake such research. Even university researchers are typically looking to make new breakthroughs in science in order to (a) enhance their reputations and (b) attract new funding. Nevertheless, many folk remedies are well-known for their effectiveness and have been for a long, long time.

Well, most physicians also recommend statin drugs, but you wouldn't catch me taking 'em. Remember, most of today's medical establishment is trained to treat symptoms with drugs or surgery. And guess where they get most of their continuing education. Pharmaceutical companies! Is it any wonder that most medical doctors in the West are pill-happy? That's how they've been trained.

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I totally agree with your last. Dr. Weil would agree with us on most things. I don't know of any suppliments he recommends that are patented. Not that he's adverse to making a buck or two. I grabbed him for an easy website--I'm not a devoted follower or anything..... His food pyramid is a riot--and sound-- I think. Any Doc who puts wine, and dark Chocolate on the top of the pyramid I like.

I have a hunch that good ol' natural aspirin is better than the disaster of the statin class--I wouldn't take em either ( unless I thought my life depended on it for good reason). My bottle of 100 aspirin still costs ONE DOLLAR at the corner store.
The Pyramid:

http://www.drweil.com/drw/ecs/pyramid/p ... ramid.html

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It depends on an individuals health. I take statins, but I have had 5 bypasses and I am in permanent atrial fib, the last is a side effect of radiation treatments for prostrate cancer.

I am 4 times as likely to throw a clot because of the latter factor. I say this because we must be very careful in encouraging people to not take medicine prescribed by their Doctors.

These medicines do have side effects, but depending on your health, the benefits may well outweigh the side effects.

John

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actually both my mineral and vitamin supplements are in liquid form and the minerals are taken on an empty stomach the vitamins with food

There is all kinds of information out there and before changing your diet and or exercise routine it is recommended that you seek information from your family physician or medical practitioner. Our family med person is a PA and my chiropracter along with our family nutritionist

It helps that eventually after I finish school I will also be trained as a physical therapist/nutritionist Life is good eh?

We only have this one body (at least for now) so it's best that we take care of what God has given us. In health my boys are learning about the fuel we need to live and grow (gotta love school house rock videos lol)

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So, just on an aside, are they now telling you that with the long chain fatty acid supplemented formulas that there is no evidence that breast is best? Indeed that women suffering post partum depression probably should not breast feed unless and until they supplement themselves with long chain fatty acids? It's not healthy for a kid to be murdered by his depressed mother.

Just wondering.

Marv

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hey marv who are you addressing your question to?

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