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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:45 am 
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I have had several requests for a concordance for the net bible. here are some samples:
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Want a comprehensive concordance in the back. I really like the NET Bible but find it a bit frustrating when a brief bout of senility occurs and I can't recall a passage or would like other passages on a partivular topic.
Mail from Joe ....
Under the study tools I can not find a concordance. /s/JC
any volunteers? i did a search for a concordance maker in google and got http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=co ... er&spell=1


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:47 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:25 pm Post subject: Concordance Reply with quote
Hi David,

I am willing to volunteer. Let me know what all you need and what I can do. If you want you can e-mail me.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:12 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
Same here. Anything I can do let me know.


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I think the first task is to make a requirements doc, which describes the task and what a sample end product is.
Their are several free and for pay tools out there that can index a doc and make a concordance/index.

We probably need to do that for both an online and a print version. With the print version being a doc that we can post and let people download and print for free to supplement their NET Bibles. We could also make it available in a for sale print version for near costs as we can probably get it printed and bound cheaper than a person can print off there local inkjet printer.

So for step one lets write the requirements doc and include a chapter on the tools that are available to do the development. When the 3 of us are satisfied with it as a draft lets post it on the forum for review and input from interested users.


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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:59 pm 
I'll help if I can.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:46 pm 
Even thought I am new to this forum, I am willing to help in any way that I can. I have greatly benefitted from the studies in sermon preparation, as well as teaching. So if I can be used please feel free to notify me.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:04 pm 
Looks like a long hard row without a software package to assist. I'm not a programmer or I'd take a crack at it.
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Has this been done already? I can't seem to find where it has.

I am a programmer and I believe I could write something to do this.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:32 pm 
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I just sent an email to those who responded so far it said
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thanks all for responding to this task
I am finally getting around to responding to this request for help.
I have had some health problems (2 hospital stays for stents in my heart) but that is not
an excuse for not responding earlier, sorry
here is what I propose on how to tackle the task and I would like to get some feedback
from everyone involved and other users. (I will post this on the forum and use the forum
for public discussion of the project and invite additional input from forum users



Tasks

1- develop the requirements doc and the framework (baseline words that become the
"official baseline index" for topics/cyclopedic index for a NETBible and articles

our current status, in my view, with the http://www.nextbible.org we have a pretty good way to look up words and phrases in the net bible (a concordance) so I think that will meet the primary on line requirement to find quotes and words in the net bible we also have the Treasury of scripture knowledge TSK that are associated with every verse (go to verse view and commentary tab http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=Mat ... mmentaries ) which is a good center column reference we are familiar with in print bibles.

BUT what we don't have is a good topic/cyclopedic index to classify articles and passages in the scripture and that is what I would like the primary focus of this task.

(Do you agree) ?? Comment please on the forum or by email

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Assuming you do agree then this task is similar to another one I would like to start and that is develop a better machine tagging system and human review and feedback for all the articles on bible.org so when someone searches in http://www.nextbible.org we can list possible articles that can be used to help the user. (The current article topics section is pretty weak (too few topics) see http://www.bible.org/topic.php



It appears we need a more comprehensive list of both topics and key words to associate with articles the sections of text in the NET Bible. when we have that list we can instruct our authors to provide the key words and the topics that the article should be filed under and referenced by.

If we had such a list we could tag articles and then be able to associated them with search terms that one searches for and display them in the discovery box on the http://www.nextbible.org tool set

But before I start the draft requirement description, I would like to ask for a person to team with me to be a primary facilitator on this project. If you would like to volunteer for that position post on the forum or send me an email

Requirement (draft)

1-task for the non computer techies I would like you to begin to generate a list of topics and even a Biblical Cyclopedia that we can standardize to use to classify (tag articles on bible.org to start see
http://www.bible.org/passage.php and
http://www.bibletexts.com/topical.htm


2- once we have a draft list of terms we want to call the initial official list, we would task our techie volunteers to write a program) BOT) to:

2a- to machine tag all articles containing those concepts on bible.org and
Christian content on the web.(future) and to tag all scripture references used in the article and to suggest a main scripture focus for the article. (It will also tag additional data like author, date, copyright, permission etc the rest to be added later)
2b- after a first cut from a machine tagging effort we would have trained bible students/scholars/seminary interns to review the machine tags and correct and post the baseline results and then make a wizard/help tool available for the users to comment on,
suggest corrections and/or fields that are missing and even do the first level tagging of articles that have not been thought the machine/interne process.

The end result is hopefully a rich environment of articles and the scripture tagged by topic and or concept.



Your thoughts as to what else needs to be in the requirements document?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:23 pm 
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we will soon have a release one of a concordance for the NETBible..
stay tunded for the announcement... probably in the next 2 months
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