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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:45 pm 
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I read a post (not here) by a lady in which she describes that when she was a child her family had a swimming pool and only she and her mother would wear swimming suits while her brothers and father would wear nothing. Her mother would give them swimming lessons in this way since she was at one time a competitive swimmer. She states that in the early 60’s her mother taught boys 10-15 yrs old how to swim at the YMCA and that those boys were nude as well since this was the accepted practice. Personally, I don’t have a problem with this arrangement but I would be interested in what anyone else may have to say.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:42 am 
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I think as a young baby something once in a while thats totally innocent is acceptable ..But what your describing I wondering what there motives as to let them to this especially in the 60's as when I grew up also and learned to swim in a public pool and with my bathing suit on of course.. It was a standard practice to where bathing suits when I was growing up as I think it should be then as it is now..I would liked to have been a fly on the wall in that house hold something just doesn't sound right about the situation at all..

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in a family setting it may be acceptable .... but I would question its appropriateness in a public setting at any age.

There is the growing problem with paedophilia in our society so it cannot be appropriate in any public place.

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Have you ever been under investigation by Dept of DCF before all it would take is those kids talking to there friends and then there parents hear about it .. There you go all they have to do is report this to them and they will come out to your home with the Sheriff Dept and first thing they do is read you your rights and say your not under arrest at this time but we are conducting an investigation which will last 45 days and they interview all parties involved ..So unless you want that kind of unwanted attention I would strongly advise against that..
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My wife used to work in child protective services (and I have administrative access to our internal investigation database). I can tell you for certain that an innocent situation involving family nudity would not be grounds for any action in this district (or the New York area, in general). I don't know about other parts of the U.S.

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I live in Florida its probably different if someones calls an anonymous tip they have to investigate it..Thats what they told me... :bigsmurf:


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There is the growing problem with paedophilia in our society so it cannot be appropriate in any public place.

I wonder if it's really a growing problem or if there is just growing awareness.

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no, I think the evil is growing, as all forms of evil are growing as our society grows further and further away from its Christian roots and morals.

When I was a young girl, children were able to wander around everywhere and on the whole were safe. When a child did go missing or was molested it was a major news story - a bit like when a major disaster is treated today.

When I had my own children, I was not prepared to give them the freedom I had enjoyed, but still there was horror and outrage when any child abuse was reported.

I am sure it has always been there, but it was treated and thought of as the horror it is - now the way society thinks is "if it feels good - do it! You owe it to yourself" ... our own pleasure and need has been placed on a pedestal and the individual's rights worshipped in a way that I don't think has been seen before.

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I forget "dcljoy" that you are a Aussie laws might be different there than they are here in the states..But your right things were different when I was a kid buts its not to say that there were no predators back then because when I was 7-8 yrs old I used to see a man parked across the street where I played in the back yard that was fence in where he would park there and watch me..It was not all over the news like it is now..
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pawnraider wrote:
I read a post (not here) by a lady in which she describes that when she was a child her family had a swimming pool and only she and her mother would wear swimming suits while her brothers and father would wear nothing. Her mother would give them swimming lessons in this way since she was at one time a competitive swimmer. She states that in the early 60’s her mother taught boys 10-15 yrs old how to swim at the YMCA and that those boys were nude as well since this was the accepted practice. Personally, I don’t have a problem with this arrangement but I would be interested in what anyone else may have to say.

I'll stick my nose in here for a few comments. First, ignoring the question of whether in this state or that state CPS (or whatever initials the state agency goes by) will get themselves involved in an "innocent situation involving family nudity", I will state unequivocably that there is no way that in the 1960's anyone's mother was teaching swimming lessons at the YMCA to 10 - 15 year old boys who were in the nude. Didn't happen; bogus. Secondly, I will also go out on a limb and state that it seems weird and exhibitionist to me. If I knew this family I would keep my kids far from them.

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Ditto, Jim.

The YMCA was a dead giveaway.

In parts of Europe and places like Japan there is an age old nudist culture. It never really caught on here. The latest thing is hiking nude in the Swiss Alps. It's mostly German tourists.

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Jimd wrote:
...ignoring the question of whether in this state or that state CPS (or whatever initials the state agency goes by) will get themselves involved in an "innocent situation involving family nudity", I will state unequivocably that there is no way that in the 1960's anyone's mother was teaching swimming lessons at the YMCA to 10 - 15 year old boys who were in the nude. Didn't happen; bogus. Secondly, I will also go out on a limb and state that it seems weird and exhibitionist to me. [Underline mine.]

I gotta agree with that. The story sounds weird to me.

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pawnraider wrote:
I read a post (not here) by a lady in which she describes that when she was a child her family had a swimming pool and only she and her mother would wear swimming suits while her brothers and father would wear nothing. Her mother would give them swimming lessons in this way since she was at one time a competitive swimmer. She states that in the early 60’s her mother taught boys 10-15 yrs old how to swim at the YMCA and that those boys were nude as well since this was the accepted practice. Personally, I don’t have a problem with this arrangement but I would be interested in what anyone else may have to say.



I must say that as a young man I had very respected friend's (they are still to this day) Who had a pool and were known to swim nude although they did not do it when I was there.
What they did do that was disturbing to me as a boy, was that the wife of one of the brothers would breast feed openly in front of me. After the first time it had less and less impact on me and then it did not bother me .What I am getting at is the attempt to keep everything private sometimes has negative impact.I was better able to adjust to normal breast feeding when it was not hidden, then I would not be stigmatized when seeing it in private.

This was partly the reason I was able to see something else in a different way than most
30 years later when traveling in Greece. I was exposed to nudity on beaches and around motel pools. As a man I can say it had a strong impact at first . Later though it had opposite effect as I can say after a month I had much less need for gawking, and my ability to control my urges around women in general was positively changed for the better.

Our countries policies seem to create more trouble than they solve. Especially if you consider Europe's much lower crime rates along with their better tolerance of these types of behavior.

This may sound strange and hard for most if not all who have not experienced this to understand. I have never condoned nudity nor practiced it at all nor do I want to . Only that I saw what societal stigmas can do to someone and then what good effects are not quite understood.

Just my humble thoughts on it.

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