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 Post subject: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:08 am 
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I have no idea where to put this question so I plonk it here and see what happens.
I have just got myself a new toy which runs a Linux OS. I want to install a Bible on it. e-sword wont/can't install. There is a thing called the Jsword which is way to complcated for me to install. There is the sword project or some such thing, with the same problem.
What I want is a simple Bible that is easy to install just like e-Sword. Can anybody recommend any such software please.
If all else fails I will remove Linux and install windows.
Any help appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:34 am 
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Are you saying you couldn't get java to install? They have spelled out instructions step by step at: http://www.crosswire.org/jsword/linuxjava.html

Once that's installed BibleDesktop shouldn't be too hard.

I'm thinking maybe you didn't get the java step so you installed but it won't run.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:31 pm 
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i recommend you use the crosswire software
we have built a NET BIble for it
we have a free version with limited notes and a premium version with full notes see http://www.bible.org/downloads
you can find the link to the crosswire sword sw on the premium store page at http://store.bible.org/product.asp?ProductID=110
at http://crosswire.org/sword/software/index.jsp
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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:33 am 
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Marv wrote:
Are you saying you couldn't get java to install? They have spelled out instructions step by step at: http://www.crosswire.org/jsword/linuxjava.html

Once that's installed BibleDesktop shouldn't be too hard.

I'm thinking maybe you didn't get the java step so you installed but it won't run.

I saw that page, but it was all a foreign language to me. Where do I type what they said on that page?
I did tell you I was clueless. By the look of the writting on that page, it is as though I have to write a program.
Maybe there is a java installer? Or maybe the Java is already on the machine?


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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:10 am 
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Stan53 - I'm pretty clueless too. But towards the top of the right hand side of the screen it says GettingJSwrod/ Downloads. Is that what you need?

If not, I am sure Dave will get back to you again soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
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OK, here we go again, round 2.
Question 1. Can some explain how I can type a message, go to post said message having first logged in then find I can't post the message because I am supposedly not logged in? That is a complete and utter mystery to me!
Question 2. I now have BibleDeskTop installed to my complete amazement. Thank you to the people in here who were gracious enough to assist me, a newbie to Linux who asked honest questions in good faith expecting replies along the same line. Did I get them? Read the previous posts and you be the judge!
When I attempt to run the file "BibleDeskTop.exe I get this message:"Open with:" then a dialogue box with a list of known Applications. Can any one help.
My machine is a Eee PC 701 running Xandros Linux.
Any help at all would be apreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:11 pm 
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Stan, to your first question - This sounds like it could be a cookie problem. Do you have cookies enabled? You might try adding forum.bible.org to your allowed list.
2nd - As you are running linux, you cannot run windows executable file like .exe (.bat, .com, .msi). This is why you cannot run the bibledesktop.exe; Now, From reading on crosswire's site, I believe you should run BibleDesktop.sh. On Unix/Linux systems, .sh stands for an executable file called a SHell script - a list of commands that could be run individually at the shell or command line, but instead are condensed into a file and can be executed at once. Hope this helps.
Brian


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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
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An update on my little project. I am a little wiser now. No, I still haven't managed to get a Bible installed. However, wait for it....... I now know what to look for. Now you have to understand I am a newbie to Linux. You know? A dumby. I know nothing about Linux. Zinch. That's why I posted in here in the first place.
There is a little thing called repositiries. That's what does the doing. And all that effort to get Sun Java? I already had in on my EEE PC. I just didn't know it. And I still don't know why Bible Desk Top wont install. But I will find out.
Thanks folks for your help.
Now rather ask more questions, I will endeavour to keep folks updated with how progress goes. Who knows, some one mayb e be helped by my little saga.


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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
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Maybe I should write a blog on this thingy.
Anyway, I should like to be able to say I had actually managed to get a Bible installed. Well, I thought I had. With the emphasis on "thought". I was wrong.
I decided that Bible Desktop was the way to go. So, having already tried the Linux link and having failed miserably, I spotted Web Start. Looked easy. All I needed was Java which, after much previous frustration to get it installed only to find out I already had said item. So, to Webstart I went. Five minutes later Desktop is installed and running tickaty boo. Or at least that is what I thought. Lotta thinking going on, but that was about all. When I restarted the system there was no Bible Desktop to be found. It had mysterisly dropped of the face of the earth, no where to be found. I tried to re-install, and there is was. But where? I still don't know. I guess I missed something.
Meanwhile back at the ranch I found out about resposities, or something like that. All I had to do was sudo nano or something like that and hey presto there it was all made easy. Easier in fact than windows ever was. And it is. With Windows we down load the program and then install it. Not so Linux. Select, apply and it does it all, freeing you up to read the Word. Well off to one side I spotted GnomesWord. Goody, I thought, lets do it. So off I went. Fix the repository, and off it all happens. As all this is happening I keep looking at this thing that says there are 118 files to install plus some to remove. I thought it all a bit strange but that was all. Bit strange was right. When I restarted my trusty machine there was nothing. No desktop, no programs, precious little system files. Gnomes Word was there, but a heap of other files had disappeared off the face of the planet. And I was left stairing at a blank screen. So, a couple of hours later and a complete sytem re-install and we have our Eeepc is up and running again. Oh, and no Bible..... yet.
However, I have had a heap off fun. I haven't crashed a computer for well over 10 years. And that was when I was first starting out with Windows 3.11.
When I first started this project, it was frustrating. Now it is not. It is a challenge and fun.
Please do hang around for the next installment. Unless the moderators tell me I can't.


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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
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Please keep us informed. I find it interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:14 am 
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And now for the next exciting installment (no pun intended) in my never ending quest to get Bible Desktop installed on my Eee PC. No, I haven't succeeded in getting it on yet. Yes, if I am on line it shows up just ever so nicely. But when I am offline, no sir, it is AWOL, or absent without leave! That tells me that Web Start is just that. A web start tool. One would have to be on line for it to work.
But, wait for it.... I have got Gnomesword up and running. I don't much like the look of it, and it is very basic looking. But, hey, I can't afford to be fussy can I? I would love to have e-Sword.... one can dream.
I have got very good at sudo synaptic and sudo nano and other things. Sounds a bit like karate, don't it. A lot of it's in code, but I can copy manually and that is all that matters.
Enough for today. God has enabled me this far. I really think I am going to have to sit down and install Bible Desktop the hard long slow way. The benefit? I will know my computer better than ever!


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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:26 pm 
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This little computer of mine runs on battery power. I can get around 3.5 hours between charging. I have flattened the battery twice in a row trying to get the Bible Desktop to work.
Last evening I had another attempt to get Bible Desktop to install/run. I must be missing something. I have Java on this machine, Sun Java 5, I think it is. But for some reason it wont run. I have no idea. I have done, to the letter, exactly what the download page said. Nothing. I can unzip it and run the install, i think that at least is what I am doing. As best I read the install notes for the linux version. I can find the .sh file. When I click on that, an image flashes briefly on the screen and then nothing. So, my question is: What am I doing wrong?
Any help would be appreciated. I think I am doing it all correct. As best I know how. I certainly know the web start thing works very well. but that requires me to be online. That is no help to me at all when I am not online.
Help? Anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:46 pm 
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I know you say you have Java, but is it installed correctly? That would seem to me to be the most likely problem.

http://www.crosswire.org/jsword/linuxjava.html

Spells out the steps but it's Greek to me, maybe by now with all your educational time you've spent on this you can tell if you actually did install it correctly before. It doesn't look to me like something that would just happen and since you were surprised to find you had Java, I'm guessing, and it's just a guess that you have Java, but it might not be installed.

Crossing my fingers.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:19 am 
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Thank you Marv, for your suggestion. I didn't install Suns Java, it was already installed on the machine when I purchased it. Since then I crashed the machine and had to start from scratch. Again, when re-installing it was automatically done. When I look there it is, complete. Also when I do the Web Start, it also works just fine. It is just with Bible Desktop that it wont do for some reason that is a complete mystery to me.
Again thanks for you suggestion. Unfortunately, it seems that Linux users are in short supply.


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 Post subject: Re: Bible for Linux
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:10 pm 
Hi

Just bought an eee pc myself. Did a web install and when it came to downloading it asked me if I wanted to open the file in Java. I said yes. Then after it installs you get the option to add some bible modules as well.

I then restarted the machine in full desktop mode (which I had already installed) rather than easy mode and on the menu you can open Java, and when you do you get the option to run Bible Desktop.

And it works!

Hope that helps.

It'd be nice to be able to do that from the Easy desktop. It'd be nice to run e-sword under wine as well, but I haven't got a clue how to do it.

All the best,

Gary


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