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What did Christ mean? “but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened” (Rev. 24:22)
Answer: (Daniel 8:14) 2,300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. 220 days short of 2520 days.
Is this for the end time? Read (Daniel 8:17) Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shell be the vision.

What do we learn from the word of God in (Ezek. 39:9) That Israel shall go forth and burn the weapons with fire seven years?
We learn that the war with Gog must happen seven years before the middle of the tribulation when Israel will flee to the wilderness because Israel cannot burn weapons while fleeing.

What can we learn from (Psalms 105:32) God gave them hail for rain?
In judgment God turns rain into hail. Can we say that hail is frozen rain?
What effect would frozen rain have on (Rev. 8:7 and Rev.11:19)?
We see in (Rev. 11:6) that it will not rain during the prophecy of the two witnesses.
This means the two witnesses must prophecy between (Rev. 8:7 and Rev. 11:19) this makes the first half of the tribulation of Daniel’s seven years begin with the first trumpet. This places the 7 seals out side of Daniel’s seven year tribulation. When God told Daniel to seal up the Book (Dan. 12:4) it would make sense that you must open all the seals before you can open the book (The last seven years of Israel’s judgment).

What do we learn from (Rev. 11:7)? The beast that ascended out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
We learn that the beast comes from the bottomless pit which is opened with the 5th trumpet and the beast make war with the two witnesses. This means that from the 5th trumpet to the 7th trumpet the beast and the two witnesses overlap. This allows the 1,260 days of the two witnesses (Rev. 11:3) to overlap with the beast that will have power to continue 42 months. This allows a shorting of the 7 year tribulation, but God’s word cannot be broken, and the 490 years must be completed, so God will add the overlap time (220) days to the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ when Satan will be loosed out of his prison. (Rev. 20:7)

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William D. Kelly

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Bill except those days should be shortned comes from Matthew 24:22 not Rev.

Just think if Christ don't soon return will anyone believe (v.21) answer have double interpation, they give the character of the age we live in wars, international conflect, famines, and false god's/christ.
This is not the description of a converted world. Jesus said, "My church will prevale."

Isaiah 42:1 "Behold my servant"---there is a twofould account of the comming Servant: He is represented as weak, despised, rejected, slain, also a mighty conqueror, taking vengence.

Matthew 24:31 and he shall send his angles with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather togather his elect from the four winds, from one of heaven to the other.

Who are they? 1Peter 1:1-2 (V.2) elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: [could not they be the Old Testament law and the followers of Christ?] Isaiah 65:9 2Timothy 2:10
Have a good day
CW-NF

What did Christ mean? “but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened”

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For we tell you this by the word of the Lord, 19 that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will surely not go ahead of those who have fallen asleep. 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a shout of command, with the voice of the archangel, 20 and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 4:17 Then we who are alive, who are left, 21 will be suddenly caught up 22 together 23 with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

The remaining elect (saints) that are still alive will be shortened when Jesus comes again.

You are basing 1260 plus 1260 = 2520 - 2300 = 220 years. You have something here, but you strayed away from 1000 years, Rev 20:3 and 7. Nowhere it says to add 220 years.


<300 years to go, Amen

Thank you cw-nf my mistake it is matt . 24:22 lets me know I am not perfect thanks.

When Jesus described the Great Tribulation, notice that He said, "If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive":

"When you see 'the abomination that causes desolation' standing where it does not belong--let the reader understand--then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the roof of his house go down or enter the house to take anything out. Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that this will not take place in winter, because those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now--and never to be equaled again. If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them." (Mark 13:14-20)

According to this passage, the Great Tribulation (the final three and a half years of the Tribulation) will be so terrible that no-one would survive it, and therefore God has "cut short" the days of the Great Tribulation. Some people believe that God will shorten the Great Tribulation so that it will actually be less than three and a half years, but there are several problems with that view. For one thing, the Great Tribulation will last for 1,260 days, which is a very exact timeframe. Notice that if God shortens that timeframe then the Great Tribulation will not last for 1,260 days, which would contradict Revelation 12:5-6. This makes it unlikely that God will shorten the length of the Great Tribulation. For further evidence, notice what an angel did when the prophet Daniel was given some end-times prophecies:

""At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will be delivered." ... Then I, Daniel, looked, and there before me stood two others, one on this bank of the river and one on the opposite bank. One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river [i.e. an angel], "How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?" The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed. From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days."" (Daniel 12:1,5-7,11)

In the above passage we see a description of the time of unparalleled distress (just as Jesus described it in Mark 13:14-20, above), and we see "the abomination that causes desolation" (just as Jesus described it in Mark 13:14-20, above). Notice that in this context concerning the Great Tribulation, an angel lifted both of his hands and swore an oath (by Him who lives forever) that "It will be for a time, times and half a time." We have already seen that "a time, times and half a time" is three and a half years, and the angel swore a solemn oath with both hands lifted up to heaven that the Great Tribulation will last for three and a half years. It will not last longer than that, nor will it end sooner than that.

In order to understand what it means for the Great Tribulation to be "cut short," let's look at Mark 13:20 again:

"If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them." (Mark 13:20)

This indicates that instead of allowing the Great Tribulation to continue until no-one is left alive, God has already shortened those days by decreeing that they will last for three and a half years (exactly 1,260 days). Remember, God's plans and purposes were established long before the earth was created, and the plans of the Lord stand firm forever. His purposes will be carried out exactly as He had planned them:

"But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever, the purposes of his heart through all generations." (Psalms 33:11)

"The LORD Almighty has sworn, "Surely, as I have planned, so it will be, and as I have purposed, so it will stand. ... For the LORD Almighty has purposed, and who can thwart him? His hand is stretched out, and who can turn it back?" (Isaiah 14:24, 27)

"Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please. From the east I summon a bird of prey; from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose. What I have said, that will I bring about; what I have planned, that will I do." (Isaiah 46:9-11)

God knows "the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come" (Isaiah 46:9-11), and long ago He "cut short" the length of the Great Tribulation by decreeing that it will last for exactly 1,260 days.

The Great Tribulation will begin at the mid-point of the seven-year Tribulation period when the Antichrist breaks his treaty with Israel and desecrates the Jewish temple, and it will last for the final three and a half years of the Tribulation until Jesus returns to the earth at the Second Coming.

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Somehow this 1260 is overrated including time, times, half of time is also overrated using it as 1 + 2 + 1/2 = 3 1/2. When I read Dan 12 or Dan 7 it pinpoints to end time, by using the 3 1/2 years, 42 months, 1260 days only at what point when does it begin and end of the great tribulation. How many great tribulations you have to go through to end the 1260, 3 1/2, and 42? Simple arithmetic does not point to anything, it makes it confusing.

"If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them." (Mark 13:20)

In other words, since we are under probations before his coming, the longer Jesus prolong his coming the more wicked we become. Like before Noah's flood, Gen 6, life span from 500 - 969 years.

Bill Kelly - why on earth would you post your address & phone on a public website? -- not sure what exactly you are trying to say with your post

i agree with this:

I believe that either the 7 years or half of that (3 1/2 years) is shortened to a 5 month period (see Rev 9 - Power to hurt men 5 months and their power was in their mouth). If this power is the same as the flood mentioned in Rev 12:17 that the serpent casts out after the woman, then we could compare this to the flood of Noah, which took 5 months (150 days) to abate. Note that 5 months (May-Sept) happens to be the time of the locust, perhaps offering a clue as to the season in which the tribulation of Antichrist (and his locust army) would transpire.

Dave

& why do you think the 5 months couldn't take place during the 3.5 yrs?