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 Post subject: Re: Phi 2:10
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:26 am 
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I am convinced God does still talk to and reveal Himself to people, but those revelations or communications would rarely be to anyone who would flaunt the experience for personal glory or credibility. Yet, there is a time to share in humility as Mike has done.


Like Paul who didn't go around bragging about being taken up to the third heaven (2 Cor. 12:2), eh? He only mentioned it (in an oblique way) when he knew it would help, teach or bless people. In other words, it was for the benefit of someone else, not himself.

Mike, the experience you related gave me goosebumps! I, too, thank you for sharing!


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 Post subject: Re: Phi 2:10
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:50 am 
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MikeC1956 wrote:
XianCatalyst wrote:
Hehehe Happy-merry Chrismahannaquanzica to you then!<snip>
Hey....don't knock it...it means the whole month of December (for now, and practically) is a holiday...now if I could only get it as a paid holiday.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I'm extremely cynical of claims like that, even from you Mike. I don't discredit them, I just am, ummm, well cynical.

I am too, that was my point really. To this day, I do not seek a repetition of this, as some might. I do not base my walk on this event, I do not base my faith and/or salvation on this event. And I have sough to measure what occurred that day by what the scriptures have to say on the fruit of that event, on the event itself, on the reactions of both my wife and myself regarding the event.

The "mystical" is something I'm extremely cautious about. If it happens all well and good, provided there is no evidence from the scriptures to the contrary. I have been told by some to seek it more actively, but when I observe their theology and their walk, I am discouraged from doing so. I have also been told by some who disdain the "mystical" to reject this event...on principle. I suspect the principle that those well-meaning brothers and sisters is "it didn't (or hasn't) happened to me, so it can't possibly happen to anyone. No I'm not casting that your way Xian. I would not put that on anyone unless I first saw them face to face, saw their demeanor, their attitudes. One of the things that they all had in common was an attitude of self-righteousness.


Please know I don't question you. I don't think you are weird... well not for this anyway.... :) But for me, these things are personal proof for the ones that experience it. It has much less meaning to those who hear about it. The only proof is what one experiences themself, really. The rest is hearsay. This is my argument for atheists as well and for those screaming they can prove there is a God.

To the extent it strengthens you and your wife, I believe its purpose is fulfilled.

ty for sharing.


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